Flopping trips

The preflop raise may be a bit much at table full of unknowns, but the rest of the hand looks fine.

There's no reason to raise at any point, because you're in a WA/AB ("way ahead, way behind") situation.

Yeah that was my thinking. Just wasn't sure if I was playing hands like this too passively

I think when you decide to open 4x, you decide to forgo opening 54s in MP.

OTF, this is essentially the one combo I most want to lead out and just b/b/b with exponentially increasing bet sizes assuming a safe run out.

The problem with forgoing the betting lead to passive players with a clear value hand is that even when they do manage to bet worse hands for all 3 streets (and it's not clear to me they would bet AQ 100% of the time), they're going to do this little pipsqueak, milking type stuff, which A) means you get less value and B) defeats the purpose of protecting your marginal holdings with slowplays anyway.

Honestly, if you got 90bbs off Q9 or whatever here, I'd consider that best case scenario for this line, and you're much more likely to either get like 50bbs off him when they have a Q or honestly be losing when they do bet all 3 streets this "hard."

Obviously with any weaker hands you're not missing as much value by playing more passively, and with much stronger hands (eg: A5 and especially QQ), you can check with the intention of raising at some point.

I think this is true regardless of your overall range strat. I personally have a robust betting range for a very small size here, but even if literally everything but 65/54 is checking here, I think you should just go ahead and blast off with this hand for 1/2p+. (In which case you can get stacks in against AQ by the river.)

Very good information. Thanks. Yeah I think I just checked as I was OOP to multiple players. But I could bet three streets. Would you bet three streets with AQ here ? Or is 5x the minimum you would want

Again, I personally use very small sizing here, so it significantly changes the cutoffs for which hands can go for 3 streets. Even so, Qx is probably mostly going for blocking bets by the river, but KK+ (and Q9) is solid value. (And for quite large turn and river sizes on this runout.)

Barring a read that villains are sticky, I think you need 5x+ to have 50%+ equity taking a 1/2p+ flop / 1p turn / jam river type line 4-way.

First to act as the PFR, and multi-way, I'd be checking range, with a lot of check-raises. Even though it's face up, at low stakes, I'd check raise flop here. That said, I don't think flatting and waiting until the turn to raise is bad.

The turn 9d adds a BDFD and a BDSD, and brings in Q9 for 2P. HJ stabbed flop for a somewhat large size, got two callers, and is now betting somewhat large again. He seems to have a hand he likes, so I would think a raise is mandatory here, before an action killing card dribbles off on the river.

As played, as long as the river wasn't the 3d, I'd raise huge. If we're only 200 eff to start, it's just a jam.

In this hand he turned up with 99

Yeah I think we win the min verse a lot of his other hands too.

I wouldn't beat yourself up over the result. No matter how you play this, you're losing a big pot when you raise pre, flop trips, and your opponent turns a sneaky boat.

We could have AA/KK, QQ or 55 here. He could as easily have 66-88, or Q9, or just QX. So the takeaway should be looking at how this line performs against his range, and compare that to other lines, to see which line makes the most sense.

I think bet-bet-bet is fine, if V gets to the flop and turn with some AXdd, so we're not just targeting his QX for value on the turn. I think check-raising the flop is fine, if V stabs at it with 66-99. I think check-calling flop and check-raising turn is fine, if V continues to barrel with QX.

I prefer any of these lines over check-calling flop and turn.

If we do check-call flop and turn, I think we should block bet on flush/straight run-outs, and go for the check-raise on brick rivers. It's a higher variance line, because sometimes we'll run into a brick wall, but the upside is that we get three streets of value when our hand is good.

Check-calling the whole way seems like the worst line, unless V is very aggro and won't take his foot off the gas.

That's great advice thanks