President Elon Musk
He probably deserves his own thread at this point, discuss accordingly
If he's trolling and if it was sarcasm then it was indeed a nazi salute.
Can't have it both ways.
Same when people say Trump is too stupid to know this or he didn't mean it.
Either he's smart or he's stupid , can't have it both ways.
Then it lead to only one conclusion:
Why on earth would you vote for someone you think is stupid or a troll , at one of the most important seats of your country.
It makes zero sense.
zero
I believe his responses to the issue were trolls, not the salute and I didn't vote for Elon, he was asked by the President to help them clean out the corruption in gov't.
Your commitment to extending an unlimited benefit of doubt to these people will never not fascinate me.
Who are "these people"? I am not extending the benefit of the doubt to anyone. I've made it clear that I think it is entirely possible that Elon was deliberately trolling. Maybe I think the trolling explanation is slightly less likely than the awkwardness explanation, but only slightly so.
I also said that Elon deserves all the questions he is getting because he has proven himself capable of almost any sort of trolling behavior.
I also think that people like Playbig who are defending Musk on the ground that he didn't use the proper technique for a Nazi salute are embarrassing themselves.
I really don't understand the history of trolling defense, same as victor's sarcasm defense.
If he's trolling and if it was sarcasm then it was indeed a nazi salute.
I very much agree with this. If Elon was deliberately trolling, then he might as well be a real Nazi.
Who cares about the distinction between true heart Nazis and people who think it is funny to imitate them?
You can say he wasn't doing that, but Elon Musk can't. Or at least, he hasn't.
Why not?
Maybe because his response to everything is normally "FU"? The thought that anyone needs to clarify what they meant by waving their arm around is mind boggling. People looking for reasons to be offended are the nut low.
And no I don't agree that it looks "exactly like a nazi salute". Yes it looks like the video on the left.
Pro-tip: the video on the left is a group of neo-nazis doing their salute. Guess what? Even if it is inaccurate as to the original german or roman one, who do you think it connects with? (hint: the people in the video on the left, ie neo-nazis). I would say you were smarter than this, but, well...
lol it's the entire issue.
as what the saluter was trying to convey when they raised their arm. It was clear what Elon was portraying
Reallllllly? Where did he clarify that? Link please.
fighting against "nazi's" who were in the process of taking away our freedom of speech.
lololololololololol
Maybe because his response to everything is normally "FU"? The thought that anyone needs to clarify what they meant by waving their arm around is mind boggling. People looking for reasons to be offended are the nut low.
Ah, so you are one of those "he was just waving his arm around" people. Absolutely not worth my time. Even playbig admits it was exactly like a neo-nazi salute.
You might want to check the worldwide response to him waving his arm around. It isn't just a few people that interpreted that way. No one was looking for a reason to be offended and the guy just happened to wave his arms around in a way that looks like a nazi salute. That's just effing absurd.
You might want to learn that one thing you should never do is accidentally look like you support nazis. And if it does happen, you apologize quickly and clarify that you don't agree with nazis.
If you don't bother with the latter, you deserve what you get. And he does.
He said it through his words when he was on stage.
Here's the link of him saying "Thank you! My heart goes out to you!"
But Elon knows how to "send his heart out to people" and he knows it doesn't look like a nazi salute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZNL_8bU...
See 22:47. That's how you do that. That's him doing that. It was A CHOICE TO DO IT LIKE A NAZI SALUTE.
He knows how people are interpreting it worldwide. He has seen that reddit is banning links to twitter en masse as a result from this. He could simply say "hey guys sorry that looked like a nod to nazism. certainly didn't mean it that way." But he doesn't.
THAT'S VERY TELLING
And I'll move on when you stop lying.
But Elon knows how to "send his heart out to people" and he knows it doesn't look like a nazi salute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZNL_8bU...
See 22:47. That's how you do that. That's him doing that. It was A CHOICE TO DO IT LIKE A NAZI SALUTE.
He knows how people are interpreting it worldwide. He has seen that reddit is banning links to twitter en masse as a result from this. He could simply say "hey guys sorry that looked like a nod to nazism. certainly didn't mean it that way." But h
He was in a totally different mindset in the above video, he was much more laid back but if anything it further solidifies my position that it was meant to be a thank you for voting for President Trump (and I'm not lying, how can someone lie about their interpretation about something? It has nothing to do with me "lying").
He was in a totally different mindset in the above video, he was much more laid back but if anything it further solidifies my position that it was meant to be a thank you for voting for President Trump (and I'm not lying, how can someone lie about their interpretation about something? It has nothing to do with me "lying").
You are certainly welcome to your "interpretation." I'll wait for Musk to clarify his intention, thanks. Wonder what's taking him so long.
Neo-Nazis.
I've made it clear that I think it is entirely possible that Elon was deliberately trolling. Maybe I think the trolling explanation is slightly less likely than the awkwardness explanation, but only slightly so.
OK, but the simplest explanation is that the guy doing Nazi salutes and writing articles in support of a German Neo-Nazi party is just a Nazi. The theory that he's inadvertently doing Nazi salutes due to awkwardness (a thing awkward people are known to do?) seems far less plausible.
Who are "these people"? I am not extending the benefit of the doubt to anyone. I've made it clear that I think it is entirely possible that Elon was deliberately trolling. Maybe I think the trolling explanation is slightly less likely than the awkwardness explanation, but only slightly so.
I also said that Elon deserves all the questions he is getting because he has proven himself capable of almost any sort of trolling behavior.
I also think that people like Playbig who are defending Musk on the
I think he's referring to the fact that you generally operate with a sense of neutrality and show even basic levels of independent thought.
This is the internet. Sides must be picked ahead of time and narratives woven based on moving the team ball forward, regardless of actual context.
A few months ago we were making fun of Elon for flailing wildly at inappropriate times and jumping up and down excitedly like a teenage girl at a concert. A million Elons in front of a million cameras, and one of those dudes is bound to perform a perfect rendition of Swan Lake out of the blue while at a news conference.
And yet there's only one Elon, which makes it much less likely to occur randomly by chance. And he still refuses to disavow the interpretation. Strange, no?
Neo-Nazis.
OK, but the simplest explanation is that the guy doing Nazi salutes and writing articles in support of a German Neo-Nazi party is just a Nazi. The theory that he's inadvertently doing Nazi salutes due to awkwardness (a thing awkward people are known to do?) seems far less plausible.
He's also reposted blatantly racist accounts such as Radio Genoa, a virulently anti migrant acc with suspected Russian links.
I'm genuinely bemused his salute is being downplayed as awkward behaviour.
Let's continue glossing over the fact he had neck surgery recently.
He's also reposted blatantly racist accounts such as Radio Genoa, a virulently anti migrant acc with suspected Russian links.
I'm genuinely bemused his salute is being downplayed as awkward behaviour.
Now hold up, we can't say for sure they're spewing racist rhetoric because they're racists. They might simply be awkward or autistic.
And yet there's only one Elon, which makes it much less likely to occur randomly by chance. And he still refuses to disavow the interpretation. Strange, no?
We live in the timeline with the One True Elon.
Somewhere out there in the multiverse, Bizarrogorgo is living in the woods with his beautiful wife and 3 children on their self-sustaining plot of happiness, blissfully unaware that he should be spending his time dunking on deplorables on something called the Internet. Just out living his best life.
We live in the timeline with the One True Elon.
Somewhere out there in the multiverse, Bizarrogorgo is living in the woods with his beautiful wife and 3 children on their self-sustaining plot of happiness, blissfully unaware that he should be spending his time dunking on deplorables on something called the Internet. Just out living his best life.
Got under another right wing wacko's skin. I know I'm doing something right.