Hand Feedback at 2NL
Hi all! I'm a relatively newish player (~8 months) that started playing at NL10 before realizing how incredibly far out of my league I was. I've switched to NL2 over the last 3 months, and am trying to work on my leaks as a losing player to hopefully become a break even one. Something I'm working on now is increasing aggression, as my overall AF is 2.5, and I've read that its more ideal to have it in the 3-3.5 range generally. I do struggle with the overwhelming irrational fear of losing a 30 cent pot (WHY?!?), so I've historically been pretty timid in the past.
In the vein of being more aggressive, I'm trying to identify appropriate spots and marked this hand for review yesterday:

I'm thinking I either could have led out on the flop after my 3-bet (though the 15/12 reg with an A on the board scared me, as I'm thinking he has a ton of aces in his pretty tight 3-bet calling range), or I could have check-raised the flop instead of calling repping a high A or a 3. Any feedback on which (if either) would be a good play would be greatly appreciated, as well as any other advice about this hand I could use to improve.
Now only if I can not just freeze up and go mind blank in the moment and actually think the above out during play. One day....
Thanks!
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Hand is fine. I would probably bet 33 on the flop because range bets rock but it's a horrible board and that is that.
I've never payed any attention to the aggro stat but if you want to get better at bluffing you need two things: 1) a broad understanding of the basic theory and 2) lots of practice.
For 1) it's difficult to advise a route because everyone's different. Are you a maths person or a visual person? If visual you might want to start using gtowizard or a cheap solver quite early on to start to conceptualise how we split ranges into folds/calls/raises/bluffs. Don't be intimidated though, everyone is still so bad at poker just having some basic understanding will start to separate you from the pack.
2) sounds easy but the biggest issue when starting out is understanding variance well enough to weather the emotional turmoil that accompanies playing more aggressively. It's extraordinarily difficult to lose several hands in a row to a solid bluff and still make the next correct bluff with no hesitation. Things like that.
But there is another 'bonus' route you could take instead. You could just practice getting good enough to beat 10nl with a more nittier, value-orientated style that will almost certainly win long term. Get used to variance. And all the while start to practice little bluffs here and there when things are going well and then, afterwards, hyper anlayse them by online and seeking honest feedback as you are now. [In fact that's another good mitigation against the fear. You can tell yourself although the bluff failed and you don't know if it's good yet at the very least it will provide valuable information on how to improve going forward. I try and operate a no BBs were ever 'lost' education strategy]
The board is equally as horrible for villain, given your 3bet range
Ax makes up a lot of villain's range, but not all of it. Would a x/r line for pot on the flop be profitable?
x/r ensures villain continues with an A and folds everything else. If you x/r and get called, how do you play on any non-J turn ?
x/r ensures villain continues with an A and folds everything else. If you x/r and get called, how do you play on any non-J turn ?
That's why I'm thinking (now) that playing as is versus a tight reg/nit (like I was) was good, but x/r the flop vs. someone much wider (fish/weak lag) to induce those folds might be a good play. If it gets called, then I know I'm beat. Sound logic?
Appreciate the responses, these thought experiments bouncing ideas off others really is how I learn best.
That's why I'm thinking (now) that playing as is versus a tight reg/nit (like I was) was good, but x/r the flop vs. someone much wider (fish/weak lag) to induce those folds might be a good play. If it gets called, then I know I'm beat. Sound logic?
Appreciate the responses, these thought experiments bouncing ideas off others really is how I learn best.
The problem with this logic is, are you raising as a bluff or raising for value?
If you are raising as a bluff, then you want better hands to fold, but the only better hands that might fold are QQ and KK which are not very likely to be in villains range.
If you are raising for value, you want worse hands to call you. But if we think only an Ace is calling amd everything else is folding, then it's not for value either.
The only thing I can think of is maybe raising for protection to fold out random bluffs with a Kx or Qx, but overall I think the raise is not accomplishing very much.
I think I'd choose between call/fold personally.
That's why I'm thinking (now) that playing as is versus a tight reg/nit (like I was) was good, but x/r the flop vs. someone much wider (fish/weak lag) to induce those folds might be a good play. If it gets called, then I know I'm beat. Sound logic?
It would be a good idea with 54 : it's worthless unimproved and it can improve to a very strong hand. If you get called and don't hit the turn you know you're beat, but you don't mind too much because you had 5 high to start with. JJ is the different, it will rarely improve and it has good value now. If you just bet the flop they will call with a lot of hands you beat, like most pocket pairs, that will most likely fold to a x/r.
And what hand do you want to check-raise for value anyway? AA would be weird, you block their calling range and give them an easy exit, A3 a bit the same and 33 you don't have.
It would be a good idea with 54 : it's worthless unimproved and it can improve to a very strong hand. If you get called and don't hit the turn you know you're beat, but you don't mind too much because you had 5 high to start with. JJ is the different, it will rarely improve and it has good value now. If you just bet the flop they will call with a lot of hands you beat, like most pocket pairs, that will most likely fold to a x/r.
Got it--that makes sense. I appreciate the example!