Donald J. Trump (For everyone else except Victor)

Donald J. Trump (For everyone else except Victor)

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by Rococo k

I agree that this is super ****ed. It sounds like it is not going to apply to Social Security, but highly alarming nonetheless.

I concur that this is likely one of those areas where the headline is a lot more alarming than the reality. But this is the sort of sweeping decision that I anticipated Trump would make and end up with some wild unexpected consequences. Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. I appreciate the effort.

I think my wife might be paid from these funds in a very roundabout way, but it may fall under the Medicare/Medicaid umbrella. She's a counselor of sorts for people who are effectively wards of the state, but I'm pretty sure it's a federal program farmed out to local agencies.

The pay is terrible and emotional impact is high, so I'm not going to lose any sleep if she gets canned due to the budget evaporating. Plenty of opportunity out there.


Just got word our district has been instructed to lock down the schools before allowing ICE agents in to conduct raids and arrest children. The arrests are being posed as reuniting children with their parents to be deported.

The smaller kids are asking if they can be arrested too, and what will happen to their friends. Nobody ****ing knows how to explain this.


by Rococo k

Firing most of the inspector generals without cause and firing all the lawyers in the Justice Department who worked on any of the Trump cases also ranks pretty high on this scale.

Congress at *any time* could have made the DOJ as independent as the Federal reserve from the executive.

it mulled about doing it after Nixon, it didn't.

in 1978 though congress decided to make the DOJ a little more independent than other executive agencies with the "ethics in government act".

that created the independent counsels which POTUS couldn't touch.

in 1999 for whatever reason they let that act expire.

the idea that subscribing to unitary executive theory is hitleresque, is just absurd.

Congress can at any time change that for justice (or anything else not explicitly in the restricted powers of POTUS), the DOJ doesn't even exist within the constitution and it's just one of the many possible ways to organize prosecution at the federal level, and for the time being it's fully legal and in accordance to the spirit and the letter of the constitution for the president to do what he wants with the DOJ and it's employees.

and anything that doesn't violate the very classic liberal American constitution isn't hitleresque in the slightest.


They should do lock downs and not let them in. **** this.


Luciom, stfu already. This isn’t happening to you.


by Crossnerd k

Luciom, stfu already. This isn’t happening to you.

co-sign


by biggerboat k

by terrorizing elementary school kids?

why would a citizen be terrorized? if the same happened in Italy I would simply tell my kids they are coming to take kids who shouldn't be in the USA because their parents are criminal who abused the system illegally and they should all go back to their original country as the law prescribes.

and why the hell are illegal kids in schools to begin with ( I know why, because of a terrible SCOTUS decision which I hope will be reversed).

Plyler 1982 (5-4 decision) was wrongly decided.

btw there would be no need to terrorize anyone if teachers just took the illegals and brought them to ICE themselves, see what I mean with letting the problem increase then appeal to empathy?

this is all happening because of a refusal to enforce laws.

it's actually a crime to protect and help illegals flee or hide from law enforcement. and that includes kids


by Luciom k

why would a citizen be terrorized? if the same happened in Italy I would simply tell my kids they are coming to take kids who shouldn't be in the USA because their parents are criminal who abused the system illegally and they should all go back to their original country as the law prescribes.

and why the hell are illegal kids in schools to begin with ( I know why, because of a terrible SCOTUS decision which I hope will be reversed).

Plyler 1982 (5-4 decision) was wrongly decided.

btw there would be

I would explain it to you, but you are a hopeless sociopath and unable to generate even the slightest empathy for other human beings.


by Luciom k

why would a citizen be terrorized? if the same happened in Italy I would simply tell my kids they are coming to take kids who shouldn't be in the USA because their parents are criminal who abused the system illegally and they should all go back to their original country as the law prescribes.

and why the hell are illegal kids in schools to begin with ( I know why, because of a terrible SCOTUS decision which I hope will be reversed).

Plyler 1982 (5-4 decision) was wrongly decided.

btw there would be

I’m sending you to the seaside for the day before I ****ing lose it on you.

These are small children and their friends. They have no concept of the legality of their existence. Jesus Christ, dude.


So apparently medicaid funding in Washington State is being paused.

Probably today courts are going to start blocking this order like they did the completely fascist and unconstitutional birthright order, but man it's awful, and even a day or two is going to cause some havoc. ****ing Trumpers.


by Crossnerd k

I’m sending you to the seaside for the day before I ****ing lose it on you.

These are small children and their friends. They have no concept of the legality of their existence. Jesus Christ, dude.

This is exactly why you shouldn't be a mod. Jesus Christ, indeed.


No, it's not even about Trump support.

Half of the forum is probably on the spectrum, so people are going to have filters of varying effectiveness, but Luciom explained in a matter-of-fact way how he'd approach a sensitive topic with children and Crossnerd has a hissy fit that really just boils down to, "BUT THINK ABOUT THEIR FEELINGS!"

So what, are we supposed to enforce laws with a constant eye on whether or not a child might shed a tear as a result?

Does Crossnerd not have any rules at home? Do the kids run the household?

Any small child who has a friend disappear because they were deported is going to go back to thinking about Minecraft by the end of the week. Kids are ignorant, but not stupid. You can explain to a child how rules work.


I just asked myself what would Trump do


Admins at the schools and clinics currently calling company heads and insurances to see if our kids are going to lose any of their services. Much is determined via federal funding.



by Inso0 k

So what, are we supposed to enforce laws with a constant eye on whether or not a child might shed a tear as a result?

That seems like a reasonable guideline? I feel like if I made children cry during my day-to-day work my boss would have some constructive feedback for me.


by Crossnerd k

I’m sending you to the seaside for the day before I ****ing lose it on you.

These are small children and their friends. They have no concept of the legality of their existence. Jesus Christ, dude.

Just using your post to make a couple of quick points, they aren't directed at you:

1) Being in the country without documentation isn't a crime. It's a civil violation.

2) No one's existence is illegal. A person can't be illegal, only actions can.


by Luciom k

"reducing the scope of the state is very close to be Stalin" roflmao.

it's the literal opposite

Your belief that Trump is doing this in order to diminish the power of the state is truly something to behold.


by Luciom k

Congress at *any time* could have made the DOJ as independent as the Federal reserve from the executive.

it mulled about doing it after Nixon, it didn't.

in 1978 though congress decided to make the DOJ a little more independent than other executive agencies with the "ethics in government act".

that created the independent counsels which POTUS couldn't touch.

in 1999 for whatever reason they let that act expire.

the idea that subscribing to unitary executive theory is hitleresque, is just absurd.

Cong

I am unsurprised that this is your opinion.


by Playbig2000 k

+1

The bias here against Trump supporters (who are just people who love their country and want it taken out of corrupt hands) is out of control, which includes the mods.

It's hilarious that you don't think Trump is corrupt. I mean, it's almost as hilarious as thinking vegetables are toxic to humans.


by Land O Lakes k

It's hilarious that you don't think Trump is corrupt. I mean, it's almost as hilarious as thinking vegetables are toxic to humans.

Have you heard of oxalates?


Your body produces oxalates. It is broken down into energy by Oxalobacter formigenes, a bacteria that lives in your gut.

Long story short: most people handle oxalates just fine. They are eliminated with waste. High oxalate levels can cause issues, but most people will not experience these with a normal diet. Most foods that are high in oxalates are very beneficial in other areas, so cutting them out entirely is usually a bad idea. The benefits far exceed any downsides.

Yes, some of us know a lot about oxalates. Many people use misinformation about them to try to sell their supplements, so be wary.


by microbet k

So apparently medicaid funding in Washington State is being paused.

Probably today courts are going to start blocking this order like they did the completely fascist and unconstitutional birthright order, but man it's awful, and even a day or two is going to cause some havoc. ****ing Trumpers.

Why would a federal directive cause funding to be paused in only one of the fifty states?


by Brian James k

Have you heard of oxalates?

Do you avoid vegetables because of oxalates?


by Rococo k

Do you avoid vegetables because of oxalates?

Just high oxalate ones.

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