President Elon Musk
He probably deserves his own thread at this point, discuss accordingly
Elon once said there was an upper bound on inflation bc if the risk free rate (bonds/trreasuries w/e) goes higher than historical stock market returns, all stocks would go to zero.
Always a pleasure to have him weight in on economic issues
Well his dad was an actual stormtrooper in the Nazi party. I did a book report on Arnold back in like 3rd grade not too longer after watching Pumping Iron and wanting to be a bodybuilder. I thought at that age that I would have been lucky to reach Danny Devito's height so I figured I'd train like Franco Columbo instead.
Oh and in general when minors enter the picture things get muddier because you have the competing interests of protecting minors and of free speech to balance.
So it's very hard to claim censorship can exist in general when it's about minors.
Show me what the right did to censor adult to adult speech that doesn't involve public money. Biden sent the FBI to threaten social media companies if they didn't remove content which was legal but which Biden considered "misinformation".
Dumbocrats do this too and it's still right-wing: anti-bds laws that have passed and ag-gag laws are anti-free-speech.
Oh and in general when minors enter the picture things get muddier because you have the competing interests of protecting minors and of free speech to balance.
So it's very hard to claim censorship can exist in general when it's about minors.
Show me what the right did to censor adult to adult speech that doesn't involve public money. Biden sent the FBI to threaten social media companies if they didn't remove content which was legal but which Biden considered "misinformation".
Governor of Texas, Abbott, a totalitarian, right-wing dunce-puppet, effectively blocked access to internet porn.
Is porn adult to adult speech?
I would think a conservative would argue government overreach. It's parents' job to supervise what their minor children are doing, not the government's, no?
"Challengers to the age-verification measure — a group of companies that operate pornography website and the Free Speech Coalition, the trade group — are asking the Supreme Court to toss out the 5th Circuit's ruling and restore the district court's injunction. They argued the measure violates the First Amendment because it burdens adults' access to protected speech."
^from
You probably would think this video is from the last couple of weeks
Nope, 10 months ago (he updated the image)
the more people talk about Musk (or any other interesting person) as a Nazi, the more you people normalize Nazism and risk allowing actual nazists to roam among us without repercussions.
you aren't going to hurt Musk or anyone else by calling him a Nazi as everyone who could be steered hu that is already on your side and already hates Musk (and everyone else you might call a Nazi) anyway.
but keep going and having fun thinking you are accomplishing something, when the only thing you are allowing is for actual Nazis to exist among us paying a smaller and smaller price for that because the Nazi label gets diluted into "what people on the left dislike"
the more people talk about Musk (or any other interesting person) as a Nazi, the more you people normalize Nazism and risk allowing actual nazists to roam among us without repercussions.
you aren't going to hurt Musk or anyone else by calling him a Nazi as everyone who could be steered hu that is already on your side and already hates Musk (and everyone else you might call a Nazi) anyway.
but keep going and having fun thinking you are accomplishing something, when the only thing you are allowing i
So denouncing Nazism is far more supportive then actually doing nazi things in front of an audience .
What a great take.
So denouncing Nazism is far more supportive then actually doing nazi things in front of an audience .
What a great take.
denouncing stuff which isn't Nazism at all in the slightest is going to help actual nazists yes.
for example anyone who is pro israel cannot be a Nazi, in any way shape or form, simple as that. you either want a complete genocide of all Jews and consider them cancers to be eradicated, or you aren't a Nazi.
absolute monomaniacal antisemitism is a necessary (not sufficient) condition to even start thinking someone could be a Nazi.
calling anyone who isn't an outright, obscene antisemite a Nazi helps nazists.
if you think someone shares something with Nazism without being an outright genocidal antisemite, use other words.
you can use authoritarian or whateverm don't even mention, imply, or hint at Nazism, unless you want to help nazists.
nazista did a lot of things which a person can dislike which a lot of other cultures and societies did before them. the only thing they did more than anyone else in history, is genociding jews.
everything else was common, frequent, in many other societies in history. you dislike those elements, use normal words, no need to use Nazism at all, unless you want to help actual Nazis.
Eskimos routinely killed their weak, old, frail, sick. are they Nazis? no.
same as Spartans who threw weak babies away weren't Nazis. same as cannibals in Pacific islands weren't Nazis. same as Romans who genocide various tribes weren't Nazis. and so on and on and on and on and on and on throughout history
denouncing stuff which isn't Nazism at all in the slightest is going to help actual nazists yes.
for example anyone who is pro israel cannot be a Nazi, in any way shape or form, simple as that. you either want a complete genocide of all Jews and consider them cancers to be eradicated, or you aren't a Nazi.
absolute monomaniacal antisemitism is a necessary (not sufficient) condition to even start thinking someone could be a Nazi.
calling anyone who isn't an outright, obscene antisemite a Nazi helps
Read your entire text carefully , again and again .
Afterwards look in a mirror ….
If ever someone lean on the left 1 thing , u immediately condemn being far left evil person or “destroyer of worlds Marxist “ even tho they would vastly not be leftish on other aspect .
A defence u often used for you as well to protect u from being called a fascist even tho you have any fascism traits…
So double standard ain’t it ?
But hey it’s cool I guess .
Keep demonizing the left and Marxism to make it acceptable again yourself I suppose ..
Read your entire text carefully , again and again .
Afterwards look in a mirror ….
If ever someone lean on the left about something , u immediately condemn being far left evil person or “destroyer of worlds Marxist “ even tho they would be vastly not be leftish on other aspect .
A defence u often used for you as well to protect u from being called a fascist …
So double standard ain’t it ?
But hey it’s cool I guess .
Keep demonizing the left and Marxism to make it
Nazism requires extreme antisemitism.
Marxism requires extreme egalitarianism, the idea that your outcome in life isn't determined by you almost at all and everytime you fail it's because others are stealing from you.
the idea that equal outcomes for all people is a moral good didn't exist before it. it's horror. and many millions of people believe that today.
that the latter spread like wildfire without condemnation and became the worst cancer society had ever had to deal with isn't my fault. Marxism corrupted a ton of minds and still does.
Nazism is almost non existent, and it would be crushed forever if not for people like you guys who call Nazis random people you dislike, allowing Nazis to grow in the shadows because we cannot as a society identify them properly anymore.
Nazism requires extreme antisemitism.
Marxism requires extreme egalitarianism, the idea that your outcome in life isn't determined by you almost at all and everytime you fail it's because others are stealing from you.
the idea that equal outcomes for all people is a moral good didn't exist before it. it's horror. and many millions of people believe that today.
that the latter spread like wildfire without condemnation and became the worst cancer society had ever had to deal with isn't my fault. Marx
You might want to consider that most usages today are in reference to neo-nazism which does not require anti-semitism. And it is foolish to think that it is almost non-existent. It's actually rampant.
"neonazism doesn't require antisemitism" is semantic rape. it's like when you people claim that men can get pregnant.
again, stop raping words, use normal words.
maybe you think authoritarianism and anti-liberal thought is rampant these days. you would be wrong on the right (and correct on the left) but at least you would make some sense.
even taking aside antisemitism, where are the calls to genocide "inferiors" of all stripes, a necessary fundamental element of Nazism? the only place I know that insists on genociding the very weak frail and old (or very handicapped) is Canada
or, define neonazism without any reference to antisemitism and let's see if it isn't something that was common thought history (in which case why neo-nazi?).
what was the common ideology among imperialists in the UK and the Hasburg at the peak of empire? if the "neonazi" ideology similar to that of politicians in Wien in 1790? if it is, how ******ed can someone be to call it neonazism?
Nope.
The term neo-Nazism describes any post-World War II militant, social or political movements seeking to revive the ideology of Nazism in whole or in part.
The term 'neo-Nazism' can also refer to the ideology of these movements, which may borrow elements from Nazi doctrine, including ultranationalism, anti-communism, racism, ableism, xenophobia, homophobia, antisemitism, up to initiating the Fourth Reich. Holocaust denial is a common feature, as is the incorporation of Nazi symbols and admiration of Adolf Hitler.
In other words, it doesn't REQUIRE all of those features. Just some of them.
Sorry to "rape" your incorrect definition.
define neonazism without antisemitism then, and try to write down something that wouldn't describe the normal member of the British Parliament in 1803
Nazism requires extreme antisemitism.
Marxism requires extreme egalitarianism, the idea that your outcome in life isn't determined by you almost at all and everytime you fail it's because others are stealing from you.
the idea that equal outcomes for all people is a moral good didn't exist before it. it's horror. and many millions of people believe that today.
that the latter spread like wildfire without condemnation and became the worst cancer society had ever had to deal with isn't my fault. Marx
Nice , leaving the part about all leftish are evil ….
Again no one argue Marxism , we are saying as soon u see 1 point about someone agreeing with on the left you are ready to classify them or anything else that tend on only 1 point to be extreme left wing while u keep not be subdue to the same treatment defending yourself like -> but I just agree mostly about fascism , not all of it or with Elon. Other fully nazism …o0 !
Get it now …..
U believe the right has “degrees” while you don’t for the left or center …
Changing tune now ?
the more people talk about Musk (or any other interesting person) as a Nazi, the more you people normalize Nazism and risk allowing actual nazists to roam among us without repercussions.
you aren't going to hurt Musk or anyone else by calling him a Nazi as everyone who could be steered hu that is already on your side and already hates Musk (and everyone else you might call a Nazi) anyway.
but keep going and having fun thinking you are accomplishing something, when the only thing you are allowing i
People like Trolly have said for years that tolerating people like Inso0 would result in people like you existing among us.
You can easily be pro-Israel and anti-semitic. Racists want races separated. Israel is separate.
neonazis want Jews DEAD. they aren't just run of the mill racists which dislike Jews "some". nazista think Jews are the biggest threat humanity faces and their complete genocide is existential for survival of the species. that's Nazism.
"normal" racism ofc isn't Nazism, Jews have been disliked by many cultures in the centuries.
but for someone to be an actual Nazi (neo or otherwise) , a deep desire for every single Jew to be assassinated is necessary
neonazis want Jews DEAD. they aren't just run of the mill racists which dislike Jews "some". nazista think Jews are the biggest threat humanity faces and their complete genocide is existential for survival of the species. that's Nazism.
"normal" racism ofc isn't Nazism, Jews have been disliked by many cultures in the centuries.
but for someone to be an actual Nazi (neo or otherwise) , a deep desire for every single Jew to be assassinated is necessary
I didn't say anything about Nazis in order to avoid semantics.
Nope.
The term neo-Nazism describes any post-World War II militant, social or political movements seeking to revive the ideology of Nazism in whole or in part.
The term 'neo-Nazism' can also refer to the ideology of these movements, which may borrow elements from Nazi doctrine, including ultranationalism, anti-communism, racism, ableism, xenophobia, homophobia, antisemitism, up to initiating the Fourth Reich. Holocaust denial is a common feature, as is the incorporation of Nazi symbols and admirat
Luciom only knows absolutism when it’s something he disagree with ….
He can’t just see this .
But he can use it for defence purpose like how he isn’t a fascist because his not 100% on it.
But to condemn , his got no barriers about it .
ok so if you meant someone could be pro Israel and still be a tad antisemitic anyway, that's possible yes.
but the whole thing started with people calling Musk a Nazi.
Musk is very pro Israel. that makes it impossible definitionally for him to be Nazi, Nazi like, Nazi adjacent or anything like that.
it's completely insane to even entertain the notion that someone could be even vaguely Nazi if he isn't on the record explicitly wanting to genocide Jews (or at a minimum having hinted at that as a desirable outcome)
Luciom only knows absolutism when it’s something he disagree with ….
He can’t just see this .
But he can use it for defence purpose like how he isn’t a fascist because his not 100% on it.
But to condemn , his got no barriers about it .
It's not neo-nazism unless it comes from the naz region of germany. Otherwise it's just sparkling ultra-nationalism.
