Moderation Questions for Whiners
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
I know, it sucks. The people that care the most ultimately get run off.
It really wouldn't hurt my feelings all that much if the entire politics subforum just went away. Just seeing the abject horribleness out there doesn't do much for my sanity. I know, I can just walk away. Probably will eventually.
I'm also not really optimistic that platforms that allow opposition to the new putin-in-chief will be allowed to operate in the not too distant future.
How does an internet forum effect your sanity? If it does you are doing this wrong.
My number one rule would be.
Don't take things so seriously. This is the internet, not real life.
And Mods, get a life and stop trying to police every little bit of banter between grown adults. So, someone's feelings might get hurt. Who cares?
I get abused everyday on here and I don't complain about it, I just laugh it off.
Any attempt to create a kumbaya lets all get along forum is silly. Especially the I/P thread. People should be allowed to get heated at each other. We don't need a thread refereed like the NBA. If there is a flagrant foul call it, otherwise let them play.
Are you really unable to parse why saying something like this to a woman is not okay?
Has a single man here pushed back at him for saying it?
Should people who repeatedly behave in masculine ways be entitled to strictly feminine response?
Is it okay to have open contempt toward men? Do you need me to link to that post of yours again? Do you still stand by those words?
I understand why certain identities get inflamed. It’s not about blame or shame, but you need to find an off ramp for your own sake. You will keep crashing into the same pit.
Agree with you self identifying as the pits.
(1) You have major issues with men
(2) It causes you to dumb stuff like volunteering to moderate over a male dominated space
I can only imagine the other dumb stuff it causes you to do in your daily life.
The solution is simple: Acknowledge this reality in a way that you won’t forget so you can get off this dumb ride you’re on.
Should people who repeatedly behave in masculine ways be entitled to strictly feminine response?
Is it okay to have open contempt toward men? Do you need me to link to that post of yours again? Do you still stand by those words?
I understand why certain identities get inflamed. It’s not about blame or shame, but you need to find an off ramp for your own sake. You will keep crashing into the same pit.
Yeah, maybe your self ban wasn't for quite long enough, as your only "contributions" ever since have been to harrass a moderator. I'd suggest dropping it when you return.
I'm not on the forums much these days (haven't been in this thread for months), and I don't (and never will) moderate Politics, but I think an exception here is in order.
Yeah, maybe your self ban wasn't for quite long enough, as your only "contributions" ever since have been to harrass a moderator. I'd suggest dropping it when you return.
I'm not on the forums much these days (haven't been in this thread for months), and I don't (and never will) moderate Politics, but I think an exception here is in order.
He believes he is a prophet, so he probably should have foreseen this temp ban.
Just how would I rule?
Well-tempered, of course.
I don't want to be part of that whole toxic cis gender mansplaining patriarchal oppressor malarky, sorry. Maybe you like being a caveman but I don't.
And Jasus how old are you, 172? I had to look up that reference, it's from the 30s, when everything was b&w instead of the colour we have today.
I think the second edition of Old Possum in 1940 was illustrated in colour by Nicolas Bentley. Vague idea my parents used to have a Seventies paperback copy. The stage musical dates from, what, the Eighties, and the recent ill-advised movie adaptation was a flop. No clue what any of it has to do with the discussion.
Where were you in 2015 when Trump was mocking the disabled reporter live? That was the point at which all reasonable people say no to a candidate (there may have been earlier points too).
Yeah, maybe your self ban wasn't for quite long enough, as your only "contributions" ever since have been to harrass a moderator. I'd suggest dropping it when you return.
I'm not on the forums much these days (haven't been in this thread for months), and I don't (and never will) moderate Politics, but I think an exception here is in order.
jmitchell42 did 10x more harassment of a regular poster as a moderator than craig did to cn and he not only didn't catch a ban but is oddly still a moderator
not saying craig shouldn't have been banned, just saying the fact he caught one and jmitch is still sheriffing after his only posts here for over 6 months straight were purely to troll one specific user suffering from mental health issues is mind boggling
jmitchell42 did 10x more harassment of a regular poster as a moderator than craig did to cn and he not only didn't catch a ban but is oddly still a moderator
not saying craig shouldn't have been banned, just saying the fact he caught one and jmitch is still sheriffing after his only posts here for over 6 months straight were purely to troll one specific user suffering from mental health issues is mind boggling
You probably should lodge your complaints about jmitchell with someone who has the authority to ban or demod him. No one here has that authority. And as you seem to recognize, jmithcell's status really shouldn't have any effect one way or the other on moderation of this subforum.
Yeah, maybe your self ban wasn't for quite long enough, as your only "contributions" ever since have been to harrass a moderator. I'd suggest dropping it when you return.
I'm not on the forums much these days (haven't been in this thread for months), and I don't (and never will) moderate Politics, but I think an exception here is in order.
Who actually executed the ban?
You probably should lodge your complaints about jmitchell with someone who has the authority to ban or demod him. No one here has that authority. And as you seem to recognize, jmithcell's status really shouldn't have any effect one way or the other on moderation of this subforum.
it was done, he stopped the harassment as a result so it was a small victory even though the mods once again protected their own
if any non-mod did that they'd get a perma 100%
it was done, he stopped the harassment as a result so it was a small victory even though the mods once again protected their own
if any non-mod did that they'd get a perma 100%
Moderators don't go on retreats to discuss moderation issues and braid each others hair. And they don't have any authority to do anything to jmitchell. To Trolly's point, what relief are you seeking here? Put more bluntly, why the **** are you complaining about jmitchell in the Politics moderation thread. What do you expect anyone here to do?
Moderators don't go on retreats to discuss moderation issues and braid each others hair. And they don't vote have any authority to do anything to jmitchell. To Trolly's point, what relief are you seeking here? Put more bluntly, why the **** are you complaining about jmitchell in the Politics moderation thread. What do you expect anyone here to do?
mods should be held to higher standards than regular posters and yet in practice the opposite happens
whether this statement happens over an imaginary line in the ether labeled politics or not is immaterial and it was relevant here because it was in response to craig getting a temp for the same crime which a mod was allowed to perpetuate for 6 months without consequence
and it's cute you think i have any clue what trolly posts
I don't have any inside knowledge, but I suspect that this subforum is on the verge of being closed forever. I don't think anyone is willing to moderate the forum, and I don't think anyone in charge is interested in an unmoderated Politics forum. (TBH, I doubt that my personal tolerance for the latter would last longer than 48 hours.)
To all the chronic complainers and insufferable posters, congrats. I predict that your endless quest has finally ended.
mods should be held to higher standards than regular posters and yet in practice the opposite happens
whether this statement happens over an imaginary line in the ether labeled politics or not is immaterial and it was relevant here because it was in response to craig getting a temp for the same crime which a mod was allowed to perpetuate for 6 months without consequence
and it's cute you think i have any clue what trolly posts
How many times do I have to explain the same point? It doesn't matter whether you are right or wrong about jmitchell. No one here has any authority over jmitchell. You are wasting everyone's time, including your own, by complaining to Politics mods about jmitchell.
I don't have any inside knowledge, but I suspect that this subforum is on the verge of being closed forever. I don't think anyone is willing to moderate the forum, and I don't think anyone in charge is interested in an unmoderated Politics forum. (TBH, I doubt that my personal tolerance for the latter would last longer than 48 hours.)
To all the chronic complainers and insufferable posters, congrats. I predict that your endless quest has finally ended.
Looks like there is 3 mods that post here almost daily. Seems more than enough to keep a small forum like this from going off the deep end.
I mean, there has been bans up the wazoo and now we have segregated trump trump enacted by them. We definitely don't seem to be short on modding.
I don't have any inside knowledge, but I suspect that this subforum is on the verge of being closed forever. I don't think anyone is willing to moderate the forum, and I don't think anyone in charge is interested in an unmoderated Politics forum. (TBH, I doubt that my personal tolerance for the latter would last longer than 48 hours.)
To all the chronic complainers and insufferable posters, congrats. I predict that your endless quest has finally ended.
it barely seems worth saving anymore. The political content is so minimal. Pity as serious politcal activity and ideas should be soaring. I guess the fact it isn't helps explain the mess we are in.
Looks like there is 3 mods that post here almost daily. Seems more than enough to keep a small forum like this from going off the deep end.
I mean, there has been bans up the wazoo and now we have segregated trump trump enacted by them. We definitely don't seem to be short on modding.
Who are the 3? CN seemingly wants out. I'm no longer a mod of this forum. And KS has never been a full time Politics mod.
