Moderation Questions for Whiners

Moderation Questions for Whiners

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.

This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.

Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.

Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.

So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.

Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.

So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.

We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.

Thanks.

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30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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by rickroll k

you on my mod rushmore

Thanks, but that monument is comprised exclusively of people with bad enough judgment to have taken the job in the first place.


by Bobo Fett k

The last time I ran numbers on this, in 2017, Politics was #7, which amounted to 4.5% of the site's pageviews. Not insignificant, but also not dramatically forum changing on its own were it to go away. Whether it would drive away or reduce other site activity for any posters who spend a lot of time in Politics would be another question.

Because like I've said before, the market options is saturated with where you can go from that timeline. BBV in 2025 looks pretty grim, likely even compared to P.

You've got a pretty solid foundation here that has endured the test of time. If help is really needed, Ill consider - but I don't think more help is needed.


by Victor k

you could say that none of those individual forums are particularly "dramatically changing on their own" outside of NVT either.

Well, forums 2-4 were close to double the traffic of Politics, and thus more significant, but sure. That doesn't really change anything WRT this forum.

by Victor k

and 2017 was a long time ago. its hard to believe that most of those arent significantly lower.

It is, which is why I mentioned it as I wouldn't want to mislead anyone. I'd expect all of them are significantly lower, but it's their traffic relative to one another that's at play here. I don't know that I can make a strong case for any particular forum(s) having lost less traffic than others, with one exception - Poker Goals & Challenges (now Poker Blogs and Goals) is incredibly popular. The front page for NVG (50 threads) has threads that haven't been posted in for almost 3 weeks. In Poker Blogs & Goals, nothing on the front page that hasn't been posted in for 4 days. Of course that doesn't neccesarily mean more traffic, as posts don't equate directly to pageviews, and you could also have a smaller number of threads in NVG getting a lot of pageviews. Regardless, I doubt it gets only 40% of the traffic that NVG does now - it's not impossible that it has surpassed it. Of course, I'm very biased, as I came up with the idea for the forum and created it in 2010 (completely unveiled brag). :p

But I digress - the point is, I don't see any reason to believe Politics is more than 5% of site traffic now; if anything, I'd suspect less. This isn't me speaking in favour of shutting the forum down, just providing some information that I didn't think anyone else would have.


by Rococo k

Thanks, but that monument is comprised exclusively of people with bad enough judgment to have taken the job in the first place.

So is the real Rushmore.😀


by rickroll k

bfi basically died once toothsayer left

despite that he would have been banned had in posted in politics for his divisive style, he still drove discussion ad there were a lot of really good discussion that yielded some pretty good investment ideas along the way

He did and he was.

Sadly some details ate buried in the privacy of PMs

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