Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
Whether you are a man or a woman if you need the police or there's a fire most are hoping it is men who show up when called.
Whether you are a man or a woman if you need the police or there's a fire most are hoping it is men who show up when called.
To microbet's point, I don't know what this comment has to do with what we are discussing.
In any case, sure, we can all come up with firefighting scenarios in which a 210 lb man would be more effective than a 130 lb woman. If I need to be carried rapidly down 8 flights of stairs, that's going to be easier for a strong man than it would be for most women.
That said, I suspect that firefighting scenarios where a deployment of all-male firefighters would be able to save lives that a male/female deployment would not be able to save are exceedingly rare, especially when you consider that large city fire departments have fitness requirements for all firefighters.
Is there any actual evidence that allowing women to serve as firefighters has resulted in a meaningful increase in fire casualties?
It's also worth remembering that volunteer firefighters comprise a large percentage of the nation's total firefighters, and there is widespread concern about the decline in volunteer firefighters. Excluding women from an area where there is already a shortage seems obviously stupid.
If I called the cops, I'd almost always prefer women come. Sexist I know, but I think they might be slightly more likely to de-escalate whatever and slightly less likely to shoot my dog.
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Statistically speaking you are 3x more likely to be shot to death by a male officer than a female officer, so the point is spot on
It's hard to evaluate this sort of statistic without knowing the overall proportion of male/female officers and the distribution of men and within within the various jobs in police departments.
P.S. -- I just looked it up. According to various sources, approximately 12-14% of full time law enforcement officers nationwide are female.
It's hard to evaluate this sort of statistic without knowing the overall proportion of male/female officers and the distribution of men and within within the various jobs in police departments.
P.S. -- I just looked it up. According to various sources, approximately 12-14% of police officers nationwide are female.
Yeah I did the research. On absolute levels its about 1000/50 per year, which normalized to ~14% is 3x instead of 20x
The cops getting called and getting to your house to stop the home invaders is a complete fantasy. Mongidig calls the cops because he gets off on the wrong freeway exit and I guess he doesn't want a woman to see him acting like such a coward? If there are two drunk guys yelling at each other, the cops can get there on time and I want that de-escalated, not some roided up cop pretending he's an MMA fighter. Also, if a cop comes to do a report because someone stole your car and you need the report for you insurance, it's better if they don't shoot your dog.
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Why does it matter if males are stronger on average than females?
Many reasons. You’re an intelligent person. I’m sure you can think of a few.
Physical strength may not be required, but just like a life-jacket it’s better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
No I cannot. I do not believe that the average male or female shows up when a police officer is called, so explain to me why I should care whether the average male or female is stronger.
It's very funny that no one seems to want to actually answer what you profess to be a simple question. Let me ask you this. Do you believe the average male or female shows up when you call a police officer?
If not, why do you think it matters if the average male or female is stronger?
Even if it did, are you just needing help opening a pickle jar?
There is a lot of literature which finds different things, meta researches usually find a small but significant reduction in use of violence by female officers, but afaik almost no one controls for the fact that men are sent more often in the most heinous situations
Look I don't want some scrawny little dude showing up when I call the fire department, I want burly shirtless himbos to wrap their meaty arms around me and carry me off to safety.
