President Donald J. Trump (for Trumper supporters)

Incorrect. He thinks vaccinations are good. It's just the unsafe ones he thinks are bad.

We need those wars to keep those prices down

I'm not a researcher nor do I work for Reuters but its pretty absurd to claim its impossible to research misinformation. I examine misinformation on here daily. I do research and debunk it in straightforward manners. I would assume there is something like that happening and an analysis into permeation of the misinformation. There is probably analysis done into the source as well.

You would be shocked how closely your political views align with Russian State media (or maybe you wouldn't be)

Lol. Spew's been shifting posts again. I don't know which bloody thread I'm in half the time.

Funny thing is he lets non-Trump supporters post in this thread but won't let me/us post in the other one.

Quite bizarre.

You do not do banter very well, BJ. Your posts are set on "Inflame". Same as MrD so I remove his stuff too.

If you (and pb2000) simply stuck to this thread..... the forum can move ahead in an orderly manner.

spot on

But you're the one who said "Its clearly research into social engineering and not an active social engineering program"..

I was asking how you came to that conclusion, and your answer is "it's pretty absurd to claim it's impossible to research misinformation".

So, in other words, you're just guessing. That's different than saying "It's clearly this" or "It's clearly that".

DUCY?

I rest my case.

Its a DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) award for "Active Social Engineering Defense (ASED) [of] Large Scale Social Deception (LSD)

You guys are completely incapable of being genuine

"How do you know that an award from a research agency is a research project"

I dunno PB, these things are just impossible for normal minds to figure out

Thank god Musk is here to tell you what you think, amirite?

Ohh ok, I got it now, thanks for clarifying.

So in other words, the fact checkers, who all LIED when they said Hunter's laptop was "Russian disinformation", were paid out of this "Defense" fund then?

why did you insert [of]?

they have 2 separate abbreviations.

wouldn't it reason if this was 1 thing it would be worded and abbreviated as such?

Active Social Engineering Defense of Large Scale Social Deception (ASEDLSD)

looks to me like 2 separate things.

If you want to make work for yourself carry on with your stupid crusade then.

I'll post in whatever thread I want to.

What exactly was inflammatory of me posting a tweet of RFK's confirmation by the way?

From Sam Harris' subtack today:

There are two, irreconcilable accounts of what is happening in (and to) the U.S. federal government at this moment: One suggests that we are witnessing something like a coup, engineered by techno-authoritarian oligarchs who harbor some very silly and pernicious political ideas. They are now busy consolidating their wealth and power at the expense of American democracy. The other view suggests that some of the most competent people in our society are now struggling, at great personal sacrifice, to save America from economic ruin. Both views suggest that we are now in the hands of a new kind of leadership—both elected and not—which, for better or worse, is very good at getting things done.

Watching the U.S. national debt climb toward $40T, it is easy enough to believe that we have problem. It is also hard to find fault with the sentiment, recently expressed by President Trump and Elon Musk at a joint press conference in the Oval Office, that we should immediately cut all the “fraud, waste, and abuse” to be found in the federal budget. It appears, however, that the Trump administration believes that it must break the law to do this.

President Trump says that he will appeal any lower court ruling that impedes the work of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), which Musk runs. Federal courts rely on the Department of Justice (DOJ) to enforce their orders. But the DOJ, being part of the executive branch, falls under the authority of the President. For this reason, as well as several others, many critics of the administration now worry that we are on the brink of a constitutional crisis.

It seems clear that DOGE has broken several laws—and many Americans are fine with that. Yesterday, a fan of the President helpfully reminded me that one can’t make an omelet without breaking some eggs. As it happens, I was in an expansive mood: Could it be that the rule of law is one of the many broken eggs that will soon be served to us by Musk and friends as a delicious omelet of American renewal? Let’s push past our initial fears and imagine, what if it were so? How would we expect Musk and the team at DOGE to comport themselves if they were performing dangerous and heroic work on our behalf with the best of intentions?

It is here that the principle of charity immediately runs into trouble—because Musk and the brats at DOGE have been displaying absolute contempt for the people and institutions they are rendering more “efficient.” Consider the recent obliteration of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID): Did DOGE uncover embarrassing expenditures there? A few certainly seem embarrassing, but it is hard to know. Is spending $20M on television programming for Iraqi children in the style of Sesame Street as ridiculous as it sounds? Well, given that many Muslim societies raise their children to be aspiring martyrs, perhaps not. Surely we prefer teaching Big Bird to speak Arabic to killing (even more) jihadists in the future. The truth is, I have no idea whether this program was legitimate or not, and I don’t think Musk does either.

However, even if we stipulate that USAID was in desperate need of pruning, it was also our nation’s principal source of humanitarian assistance, disaster relief, and global health and democracy initiatives throughout the world. As such, it was one of the deepest reservoirs of American “soft power”—that is, of our ability to influence other societies through persuasion and cultural appeal, rather than through economic coercion and military force.

The optics of Musk’s frenzied dismantling of the federal government are very important. What he says (and neglects to say) reveals who we are, and what we are becoming—both to ourselves and to the rest of the world.

I’ll leave it to journalists, forensic accountants, and mental-health professionals to descry Musk’s hidden intentions and conflicts of interest. What worries me is right on the surface. Ask yourself: If you were the world’s richest man, tasked with making decisions that would immediately harm some of the world’s poorest children, how would you behave? As your painful work of triage took effect—as HIV patients lost access to life-saving medicine and malnourished families were turned away from clinics—would you spend your days and nights shitposting on X? Would you refer to all the civil servants, healthcare workers, and development staff, whose careers and projects you’ve imperiled, as “criminals”? Would you boast about destroying the world’s largest source of humanitarian aid as having “spent the weekend feeding USAID into the woodchipper” when you could have otherwise “gone to some great parties”?

And when you learned that one of the misfits you hired to do this ruthless work was a committed racist, would you then make light of this fact by putting his fate at DOGE up for a vote on X? And what would you do when you discovered that nearly 80 percent of your fans have a soft spot for racists?

Really try to put yourself in Musk’s shoes: If you had spent your childhood in a country that was famous for nothing so much as its commitment to white supremacy, if your most valuable company was currently being sued for racial discrimination and harassment in the workplace, if you had turned the social media platform that you own into a haven for bigots and antisemites, if you couldn’t resist expressing your heartfelt love for your fans with inexplicable Nazi salutes, might you—while shouldering the greatest burden of public service a private citizen has ever known—make some effort to demonstrate that your heart is actually in the right place?

Of course not.

Trump and Musk apparently think that whatever harms they cause can be safely ignored, because no complaint every reaches them over the din of their fans. They also believe that America itself should be guided by this same spirit of callousness. Any notion of “soft power” is a luxury best discarded (and left for the Chinese Communist Party to retrieve at a discount). Let us break our promises, void our contracts, and betray even the most vulnerable people we once sought to help, because our national reputation, even among our allies, is worth nothing to us.

And when their work is accomplished, who will make America great again?

I just know from working on DoD contracts that everything is hyper specific. I would not expect there to be defense/offense baked into a single award. Especially at 2 million a year

The contract was issued in 2018 anyways, meaning the Trump administration awarded the contract so if you guys think its really bad then you should blame Trump. This could open the door for me to blindly start hating it but I think its a massive nothing burger at best and a dunk on the Trump administration at worst

Here is the contract page: https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_A...

This should essentially confirm what have been saying the whole time

yes all politicians spend egregiously.

they take in as much money as they can, and they spend even more than that.

this is not sustainable.

In 2018 Trump was only 2 years in politics as well as getting to know DC and how their little clubs and power structures work. So there were tons of things going on that he didn't know about. The whole CIA was corrupt during that time as well as the FBI. If no one's seen the evidence of this then these things are too over the top for you to poke your noses in, if you're still disagreeing that we lost 2020 fair and square, and the Trump supporters who saw that and went to protest for a 10 day pause to verify the election results were attempting a coup against the United States, then there's literally no hope left for you. Yeah, orange man's real bad and Elon's lying about his findings. Oh well, hopefully they get it right in the other timelines.

Maybe. Harris has always been against woke nonsense and cancel culture.

some right-wing people used to, but hardly "trump fans" .

for example Sam Harris most significant contribution for a long while was militant atheism (from a center right perspective, which was uncommon at the time).

now Trump *fans* tend mostly to be religious (albeit in some warped ways from the perspective of other religious people with different politics)

Really? Imagine paying $10 and having a limited quantity purchase for what some filthy bird craps out.

So like two weeks? Prices will only continue to go up, but the cucks are too busy praising how awesome Musk is at destroying government regulations so he can have less regulations for his rockets to spew garbage into people's yards.

Could have been worse - he could have won the presidency and then everyone would have to listen to that trenbolone voice every single day.

The reason, just to educate some people who might not know, Sleepy Ice Cream boy ordered his Dept. of Agriculture director to kill 100 million chickens which is why there's a shortage, which due to supply and demand inflated the price of eggs.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/white-house-biden-admins-killing-100m-chickens-contributed-skyrocketing-egg-prices

Fox Business

White House says Biden admin's killing of over 100M chickens contributed to skyrocketing egg prices

FWIW, last I checked, it was very rare for humans to catch bird flu (that's why it's called "bird" flu) and a few years ago it was said to be almost impossible.

And if you get it, you can use ivermectin!

or you can just keep your immune system strong by eating right and most importantly keep your Vitamin D levels between 80 and 100 (most people are in the teens). This one vitamin plays a big role in doing that, as well as preventing cancer, but it's a little known fact the doctor won't tell you since he doesn't get a kickback if he prescribes it.

That's not only not how your immune system works, having too strong of a reaction from your immune system is literally what killed most people with covid. The key was always having an immune system that recognizes the virus before it has to over-react to it - which is why vaccination, not strengthening of the immune system, is the correct preventative.

Please stop giving medical advice from a position of total ignorance.