TT in a complete vacuum

I agree exactly what I am doing here.

My spidey senses tingled when he bought in deeper than most and with all green (usually a sign of a more experienced player ime).

UTG straddles 5, V opens 20 UTG1, folds to H on BTN who sees T♠ T♥ and ponders a raise but then decides this might be nutted and just calls.

You do realize that these "reads" are contradictory? Others have already tried to advise you to focus less on individual reads, since you seem to often misinterpret social/behavioral clues and then get confused when your various reads collide.

Anyhoo...How do you not raise either the flop or the turn, given that you have both a nut and range advantage, as well as an added gutterball on the turn?

Ugh

If you think "this might be nutted" then calling makes no sense as you always want to build pots early with the top of your range. So you're thinking there is incongruent.

However with TT vs the EP raise even 7 handed without much info flatting is completely fine, as is 3betting.

Flop standard, I don't agree with others that this is a raise. He bet nearly pot on a super connected board and there are tons of bad turns and river, so better to just call IP here and see what develops. His range still contains all better PPs, strong draws, and 2pair+. No need to bloat the pot with a medium strength hand.

Turn already sucks when he bets large on this board. We rarely beat value anymore as it's very unlikely he plays 9x like this. And his bluffing range likely has good equity vs you. and then his value has you crushed.
With our gutshot though along with the pair I think calling again is fine.

River again we don't beat value often at all so just bluffcatching at this point. Getting a great price though so calling will be fine usually imo.

How does a BTN call IP have a range advantage vs a 4x UTG open????

Result:

At first glance I thought "this has to be a call, you need to be good less than 20% and he can set his own price". But what hands continue barreling turn like this - especially from a passive player?. This looks like a scared overpair a hell of a lot. There is definitely a case for a (bluff) raise but river fold seems fine to me. If he had AXdd so be it . Actually I think all three options are on the table here. Nice hand

Hey Banana.

"How does a BTN call IP have a range advantage vs a 4x UTG open????"

"V - just sat down in seat 4 to our seat 1 but then changed to seat 7. He's limped pre and folded a few times. MA-middle eastern looking-M. My spidey senses tingled when he bought in deeper than most and with all green (usually a sign of a more experienced player ime). He has 800$ and we cover."

This guy is limping, and now 4x (standard imo with straddle live games) and is heavily weighted toward broadway cards and ofc the overpairs.

Flop 9 7 5dd is imo range advantage for the flatter (you)

turn 6 is also range advantage you IP.

You have all the sets, straights, even some 2pairs.

- To the hand in play.

Pre: I dont mind calling pre, but I would probably 3bet it.

Flop: Large bet I definitely just call this bet. Unless villain is totally out of line and we want to protect our hand blabla. Feels a bit tight to just fold here.

Turn: Only street I consider folding when he bets this large. But we do have overpair + blockers. He should perhaps slow down on this turn..
Especially if we give him the JJ+ / AK combos only for raising.

River: Calling

Sorry river back door flush bricked, say 3♠

If both flushes bricked and you block neither why not bluff raise river against his block bet

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Grunch:

RE - the room, and the action ("people who barely know what a BB is will buy in for the max and call off half their stack with top pair") - I've found that sometimes the regs in a particular room adjust their play to the typical action in a room. So, in this case, calling off half their stack with top pair may be the adjustment they make if the player pool is overly bluffy or tends to over-value hands that are worse than top pair.

But, maybe not. Maybe you just found a room with a lot of bad players.

PRE - TT is a pretty strong hand in a 7-handed game, and I think benefits from folding out some Broadway combos that can flop a better pair, so I'd likely 3B here.

FLOP - When V c-bets almost full pot, that's pretty strong, but I'd think this board would favor our range more than his, when he opens from EP and we call on the BTN.

With so many draws available, and without the Td or Tc in our hand, I think it's worth at least considering a raise, especially when we're so deep, and hitting a T to make a set will complete some draws.

TURN - With four to a straight and two FD's on board, and the ISSD now to go with our over-pair, and V betting 2/3 pot, I would seriously consider raising now.

It's extremely unlikely V has any 8x in his range, but he could have a lot of FD's, and might rage-fold some over-pairs.

RIVER - We're not beating anything in V's value range, only bluffs. He could have some missed diamond draws, or maybe some un-paired over-cards, but that's about it.

When he bets the river for the same amount he used on the turn, it seems like he's either bluffing, or he's got some sort of thin value. While we can beat his bluffs, I still think it's worth considering a raise, to fold out his over-pairs.

I don't think we can justify a call here. I'd raise or fold.