KJo on QT6, 2-flush 3-way
1/3 NL, I have about 500, CO about 400, and BB covers. BB is old guy who tends to bet small. CO had been getting allin pre or post with short stack, but recently doubled up. Both have major leaks.
Passed to me in LJ and I raised to 15 with KsJh (thought about folding or limping) and got 4 callers! Flop is QcTc6d. BB leads for 10, I call, CO raises to 50, BB calls, I call (ignoring players who folded). I have 11 outs to improve significantly, but I only have 6 clean outs. Turn is 3c for QcTc6d3c. BB leads for 20, I call, CO raises to 100, BB calls, I fold.
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Assuming 'passed to me' means folded to you, can you talk about why you would fold or limp? KJo in the LJ is strong enough to raise, and we shouldn't be open limping almost ever.
What would you do on the flop with AQ or KK? BB leading for $10 into the field seems like a weak Q, a T, or maybe a flush draw, and I'm tempted to raise it to $35-$40, not expecting folds but to set up betting the turn and/or river. CO raising range should be fairly wide, a decent Q or better plus some bluffs including flush draws and gutshots - sounds like CO is pretty gambly based on getting AI pre a lot, so I would lean towards including a lot of draws in their range.
On this turn, completing the flush draw, what do you think BB is leading with? Last time they lead, they got raised, and three people saw the turn. Either they are trying for a cheap bet/fold, maybe a bet/call with KcQx type hand, or they want to get raised. You're getting great odds on the $20, but I think you can't call with the raiser behind you. As played, easy fold to the raise to $100 plus a call
Assuming 'passed to me' means folded to you, can you talk about why you would fold or limp? KJo in the LJ is strong enough to raise, and we shouldn't be open limping almost ever.What would you do on the flop with AQ or KK? BB leading for $10 into the field seems like a weak Q, a T, or maybe a flush draw, and I'm tempted to raise it to $35-$40, not expecting folds but to set up
I agree with this. Turn we can just outright fold to the lead. Drawing dead a lot here, and very unsure of how to play rivers even if we hit.
I didn't raise the flop because there were 3 players to act and didn't want it to get 3-bet or build the pot maybe multiway.
I wasn't happy about it, but I called the lead on the turn because it was 20 into 220. Was concerned I might be drawing dead and that CO might raise the tiny lead.
Was wondering what CO had to raise both the flop and turn when the 3-flush hit on the turn, even to the weak leads.
The river was an 8s, BB shoved and CO called and got stacked again. BB had A5c for the nut flush and CO had 66 for a set. Not impressed with how CO played it.
It looked like a fairly strong draw, but I was 16% on the flop and 0% on the turn against their actual hands.
PRE - raise seems fine.
FLOP - weird for BB to donk small into multiple opponents. I'd be tempted to raise that small bet, to shut out the players behind. I think about how we'd play QQ or TT here, on such a wet and connected board, and think we'd be raising 100% with nutted hands.
Once the CO raises behind us, and BB calls, I'd consider folding, but with the price we're getting, I probably peel and pray to drill one of our clean outs on the turn.
TURN - I'm done with it. Just fold to the BB's donk. Zero chance he's bluffing.
