GOAT NBA Discussion: Biggest fraud poster: fallguy. Super AIDS Containment thread

1) Lebron has the same home-away discrepancy and I posted it earlier itt... His rookie stox are massively inflated for home vs away, or AD's blocks in recent years, or Jaren Jackson Jr's DPOY was questioned for the same reason.. Btw, the video showed that Jordan's blocks were drastically understated - he likely had 2 seasons of 2.2 blocks or so, instead of 1.6.

2) The video shows that there's no need for a rogue scorekeeper in today's game because literally everything is an assist - guys can do a double crossover and spin move, and the extremely vague verbage in the NBA rulebook rules indicates that the scorekeeper is supposed to credit that with an assist.. Today's game is a joke because nothing is a travel or carry, while everything is an assist

Nonsense

FINALS

13' WADE'..... 20 and 5 APG <---- not last miles
81' TINY........ 10 and 5 APG ,<---- last miles

Wade was a near-equal scoring partner to Lebron in the 13' Finals, while being an all-star in 15' and 16'.. Then he nearly led the Heat to the 16' ECF as the star..

Meanwhile, Parish wasn't a franchise player that any team built around, while Bosh was... And Bosh was in his uber-prime the entire time - he was young and only retired due to a sudden blood clot or something like that.

So no.. Despite cratering both guys, Lebron enjoyed 2 franchise players for his chips in Miami, while Bird won with a normal roster in 81'.

Retiring isn't WWE - Jordan teaming up with Hakeem would be WWE, and that's what we see with Lebron getting Luka.

And the decision to get Wade was also WWE, or the heist to get AD... and then getting franchise guys at 3rd option too is further overkill and completely absurd..

And yet regardless of who we put around him, he cannot produce goat caliber like a dynasty, 3-peat or 70 wins, aka objectively inferior to MJ.

Reminder: the Lakers will win the title this year - book it - the site mod and myself are in agreement that the Lakers will win.. Just too stacked

And then we can lock the thread.

Yeah, imagine if LeBron had those numbers over a 4 game stretch. It would be on auto-post by FG.

Can you read , all playoffs they have the same stats .

Yes last miles , wade never again made Allnba afterward…
Ps: bird won or got carry to a chip ?
Remember , not mvp , not best scorer on his team , atrocious 3 games in scoring , but keep going …

U praise bosh and Dwade and yet parish from that 1981+ , always was an all stars like exactly wade and bosh , no allnba of nothing , plain vanilla all stars .

Parish was as good as bosh , funny how u praise bosh so much as a franchise player that only once in his entire career achieve allnba2,
like 7 years before he won a chip with LeBron,
but archibald was that year allnba2 , nah he was nothing lol,,,

Final :
Hey guys , bosh 11/8/2 ~> a huge franchise players .
Archibald 10/1/5 -> nah his finish …

Entire Playoffs
Bosh. 12/7/1 -> huge franchise players , not finish
Archibald 15/1/6 nah finish players

Ps: maybe Archibald had a lower scoring in the final because Larry bird was so atrocious for many games stealing good shot opportunities from many players ….

Regardless , switch lebron with bird performance and you would never credited lebron win but you do with bird lol…

Fwiw we have no where near the same franchise player definition .
To believe a guy like bosh throughout most of his career (your words!) could of lead a team has the best player on a team to win a championship is freakin hilarious ….
I wouldn’t expect that from parish like I wouldn’t with bosh either.
But seem you do ….

Damn sure

The funny thing in all of this , bird was one of the all time great players and FG barely can make 1 valid point to make bird deserve being top 10 over lebron ,
and he has to find 8 other players ….

It's funny because when AD and Lebron played together, another poster said "well if AD isn't enough, then are the Lakers supposed to acquire Jokic or Luka?? That's crazy".

Accordingly, we can lock the thread up right now because we already know that Lebron stinks compared to MJ and others by needing to team up with Luka... Needing Luka makes the case that he stinks.

That proves he stinks.... The only comparison to Lebron teaming up with Luka, Wade or AD is Magic teaming up with Kareem, but even Magic still won more chips than Lebron in half the seasons (11).. Meanwhile, Kobe and Shaq 3-peated.. So the only examples of comparable team-ups shows that they won much more than Lebron.

If he won 8+ titles with the unprecedented team-ups that he had, then he would have a case and maybe the best case... But 1 for 6 with AD proves he stinks... 2/4 with Wade/Bosh or 1 for 4 with Love proves he cannot produce great chemistry or teams... And this is due to all the ball-dominant reasons mentioned itt (many unassisted buckets that cause low assist teams and imposes spot-up roles, thereby preventing elite roster construction and chemistry).

People forget that the 2013 Eastern Playoffs saw the Heat facing 38, 45, and 49 win teams to make the Finals, while 89' Jordan beat the #1 SRS Cavs (57 wins) and Ewing's Knicks (52 wins), and then he gave the Pistons their only losses of those playoffs... Accordingly, 80's Jordan would easily win the 2013 East with no help.. So Lebron's Eastern runs were completely "manufactured" by putting the top 3 players on his team to dilute the comp, which gave him 8 straight free Finals appearances.. A completely manufactured and unimpressive career of teaming up with the best players and then perennially-losing.

Lebron is averaging 5.0 assists and 5.8 turnovers on the current 6-game win streak, so Lebron is getting completely carried, and he only had positive plus/minus in 3 of the 6 games.. This confirms that he stinks and is just getting carried - many other guys would win more and have a better team alongside Luka then Lebron, such as 40-year Jordan and many more - tons of good players could win with prime Luka.

Not everyone in my top 10 fulfills all 4 criteria, so we can agree to disagree that Bird fails 1 of the 4... i.e. we disagree on whether the 81' Celtics were a "normal" roster, but regardless, Bird fulfills the other 3 criteria (great chemistry, title frequency, and carrying the scoring load), while Lebron fulfills none of the 4 criteria.

Jordan's best +- game in his year 40 season(40ish days before turning 40)

He went 4-11 for 10/5/5 and +32.

You are beyond delusional.

Lebron had numerous 4 game stretches that were worse than that.

He averaged 22 on 35% with 6 TO's for the 07' Finals, and basically the same in the 08' ECSF.. No one ever averaged 35% and 6 TO's for a series - only Lebron.. He also averaged 21 on 34% for the last 3 games of the 10' ECSF to lose a 2-1 lead, and He averaged 17.8 for the entire 11' Finals.. He also lost the 09' ECF as a -700 favorite.

Bird was never this bad

You're beyond delusional for ignoring the main part of the post that Lebron averaged 5.8 turnovers and 5.0 assists during this 6-game win streak, so he's playing poorly but getting carried.

The fact that Lebron needs to team up with the best players in the league proves that he stinks compared to Jordan and others.. Wade was the #2 player when he teamed up with him, and so is Luka, while AD was around #3... Plus he needed franchise guys at 3rd option.. Needing all this help proves that he stinks.. It would be for different if he had 8 chips, but he produces perennial losers despite this unprecedented help.

I found issues with the numbers that indicate the Lakers won't win and have an inherent issue that can't be overcome.

I would like to post a couple gifs and state this statistical reality, but I will not post my discoveries itt because I believe the Lakers are reading it..

The fact that Lebron has a 60% assisted rate over the last couple weeks is proof enough because I'm the only guy on the planet that talks about the stupid ol' assisted rate nonsense BS crap..... And yet Lebron has fixed that stat for the first time in his career as I instructed... No one else talks about assisted rate - only me... And for the last 3 games, I've stated an issue itt and the Lakers fix it the next game.. It happened again last night.

So I won't be posting what I've discovered here.. I'm not even going to post it on the other site.. No more help.. You just teamed up with the best players in the league (again), so figure it out yourself with your "goat IQ".

I'm.starting a YouTube channel that will go live if the Lakers appear to be unstoppable and it looks like Lebron will manufacture #5 to make things interesting - then my channel will drop to expose the biggest fraud in sports history.

Imagine a guy averaging 27/8/8 shooting 55% from the field and 43% since he turned 40 and not being impressed.

Imagine when LeBron finally teams up with a player better than him with the ball, so he's happy to move off the ball, so he ends up getting assisted more, and coming up with the conclusion that they are reading this thread, not that LeBron has always been able to play off the ball, but the situation wasn't right before.

He isn't actually off-ball and I don't see any way this doesn't collapse like the 23' Lakers or 14' Heat, who were both "hot" teams with underlying flaws that got exposed..

And I know this contradicts my previous posting about the Lakers winning.. But I'm off that position because I had a chance to look into the numbers and watch the highlights.

Lebron's assisted rate is higher, yet he's still in a primary ball-handler role and doing your-turn-my-turn with Luka... The only time they synergize is a few times per game when Lebron doesn't run back on defense and gets an outlet pass from Luka for a wide open score... Literally... This accounts for the higher assisted rate - he's no.longer the outletter anymore and now the outlet-ee... Otherwise he's dominating the ball like he always does - a cursory glance at the highlights shows this, while the time of possession stats show 9.0 minutes for Luka (crazy ball-domination) and 6.2 or Lebron (point guard level)..

So they're cooked and will get completely destroyed in the playoffs - this current period is just a fugazi honeymoon where they haven't had their cherry popped yet and don't realize that they aren't good.

Lebron is apparently the worst highly-assisted player ever because he's averaging 5.8 turnovers on this 6 game win streak.. That's the red flag - how the hell are you averaging 6 turnovers with a high assisted rate (off-ball)??.. It's because Lebron isn't off-ball, and is simply the receiver of outlet passes on fast break instead of being the outletter - Luka is now the outletter and it's the sole reason for Lebron's 2-3 extra assisted buckets per game.. Otherwise, he's a massive turnover machine that requires Luka to carry him.

Lebron's efficiency has always been boosted by facing zero defensive attention because he's alongside the best player in the league arguably.. Ditto for his previous team-ups and Big 3's.

Otoh, his efficiency was normal back when he had MJ-type casts from 04-10'.

And the higher PPG is from the teams averaging 20 more PPG than when Jordan last played.. The easiest scoring format ever.

The there's the goat turnover machine issue.

So again, you're falling for a fugazi.. You better wake up before it's too late and I'm posting the Jordan "mad" GIF after the Lakers lose by record amount (again).

Betting LeBron gets the average to 25. He started the assault a month or so ago. Wants to keep that uncanny string going, he's got his eye on it, I think.

Sometimes I wonder if the offensive scheme, and the role LeBron James has in said scheme, impacts his assisted rate. Like maybe if he moved off the primary ball handler role he may get assisted more. Basketball how does it work?

Lebron is simply the receiver in transition more than before but still has no assisted buckets in the halfcourt - he's a massive ball-dominator in the halfcourt with 6.2 minutes time of possession (point guard).. Luka is at a massive 9.0 minutes, so it's classic your-turn-my-turn.

This dynamic of assisted transition buckets but unassisted in the halfcourt explains how he had 8 turnovers last night despite 67% assisted rate - only Lebron can find a way to butcher a 67% assisted rate by still being ball-dominant and a turnover machine.. He's averaging 5.8 turnovers over this 6-game winning streak, so he's the worst highly-assisted player of all-time.. There's no way a 6 turnover per game player can win a title - I think he's a huffin' and a puffin' and the turnovers are the result of an old man desperately trying to keep up (and hold on to his team).

For these reasons, the Lakers' current run is a massive fugazi that will get exposed in the playoffs.. Somehow they've put together several games of "good defense", but I suspect there are other factors in play that account for this honeymoon... Imagine the inspiration you would get as a teammate by seeing Luka AND Lebron sitting next to each other on the other side of the locker room.. It's like "let's f*cking goooooo!!!"... But his wears off and the Lakers' defense will come back to earth.. I view the Lakers' current defense the same way fans viewed the Bulls winning some games in 1994 - barely raise an eyebrow because you know the bubble will burst.

KD, Kobe to name a few ?