CLUBGG Massiv poker union cheat ring and scam

What game were you playing?

These clubs only offer plo, nl, tournaments, i dont remember if there was anything else. It is impossible to play online poker anymore! the cheating is f*cking rampant! even on these regulated gaming sites like ggpoker, which that is another scam too. - f*cking players miracolously playing 3 days in a row without stopping you know its either a bot or you literally have multiple people taking shifts - like a scam call center from india. I have heard this type of BS before - they just concoct something out of thin-air knowing that the player on the other end cannot rebuff them or basically have any resourse. Usually they will make up a story and accuse someone of being a "banned" player who was flagged by their "security team", but this guy who came on scene spilled out some wild stuff about gaming while firing off random names of people i never even heard of. I called them out for skimming, i called them out for the cheat rings, and it was after that thousands of dollars vanished, or the remaining money that was never paid. like i said, it is to give the illusion of propriety.

I don’t have experience with this union, but I’ve encountered quite a few of the “big” unions on clubGG were 95% bot players. It seems to be quite common on there. The bot makers even advertise these types of packages

I keep hearing the same thing "they haven't got the money to pay out until more deposits come in". This should scream FULL TILT or PONZI scheme to anyone who is aware of past debacles.

And yes regulated is preferable but doesn't mean your eyes and ears should be any less operational.

Name the club and the union. Please.

Massiv Union/Club Degens United

There are a couple of other articles on 2+2/Reddit that I came across about this union and attach clubs scamming players. Then moment I called out the cheating, chip dumping, multi-account, collusion, etc, that is the moment thousands of dollars vanished, and I was booted out of the club. They spent an entire week stalling with every excuse in the book. They intentionally told me that they could only continue to pay out via Venmo, which they knew I did not have. To piss on their parade of excuses, I told them that they could send Venmo Bitcoin, and then they backpedaled and said Venmo was no longer available.

One of the players who won the main jackpot for $29,000 claimed in a chat that was paid in full, but this player seemed to be playing 24/7, so the account is clearly a house account where people literally take shifts like they would a full time job. The club stalled as long as they could before finally pulling the plug and stealing the money. $7,000 in between the jackpot and money won playing in their rigged games.

I tried to play on GGPoker and that was another bot-infested platform full of multi-accounts and collusion. Daniel Negreanu also endorses GGPoker, which speaks volumes about his character since this wouldn't be the first time he has been involved with online poker platforms involved in cheating and other BS. Even playing in casinos is becomming harded because people find every way they can to cheat.

To me it sounds like you got scammed from “the random guy” that took you in, not from the massiv union? How well do you know this guy? It’s always risky when you play through randoms. A week isn’t a long time to wait to receive a large some of money, how much did they owe you and how much did you receive?

It doesn't matter whether the agents and/or the Union scammed because they are both one in the same. The bottom line is that $7,000 was stolen by both Massiv poker union and one of their clubs called Degens United. Neither this club or the union have any cash on hand to pay players. It is one large conspiracy to cheat players who purchase chips with real money while bots and multi-accounting house players play with chips that have no cash value behind them.

They will pay out small amounts to keep up with the optics of propriety, but let that amount reach over a few hundreds dollars and your money will vanish into thin air. They will instruct you to send money directly to their accounts, and then pay you back out with someone else's buy-in.

I just learned a $7,000 lesson so everyone else doesn't have to. DO NOT play on CLUBGG, PokerBros and/or any other app poker game. They are ALL SCAMS unless you personally know each and every player and they are your real life friends.

You are not the first nor the last to notice that in these shady app games insiders will play with play money against your real money...

I think it does make a difference, there are hundreds of clubs within the massiv union, if one club is corrupt it doesn’t imply that the massiv union is corrupt. You got screwed over by the agent who pocketed your bad beat money and basically just f***ed you off. You also have no proof that players have “free chips” other than the fact that they play long sessions. Though I could see this being a thing now that you mentioned it.

And also, yes they pay you back with other players buyins that’s usually how poker works no?

You still didn’t answer my question about how much you got paid?

They paid out a few grand on a 5 figure jackpot. The moment I called out the cheating the money dried up. I didn't even catch on immediately until the cheating became so brazen and the bots were made so obvious that I stopped dead in my tracks playing. The club made one excuse after another about the rest of the money before disappearing on Telegram.

And a legitimate club is supposed to have every single dollar on hand for every chip that is put out. These clubs are just handing out worthless chips while taking in real cash and stealing the money while repaying players with new victim buy-ins. If these crooked agents don't recruit more suckers to scam, then players just dont get paid out, plain and simple. I did some digging around and this MASSIV Union and Degens United have been called out for scamming players before, so this isn't their first rodeo.

Oh the collusion was off the charts obvious. You'll have a bunch of these clowns sitting on video chat or simply a single user managing 5 out of 6 accounts on one table. In other words, I am playing PLO with 20 cards against your 4 and have access to all of the card removal information. The bots literally join and exit games at the same time its so obvious its not even funny.

But yep, club Dgens United is a total SCAM. They even stole part of the money that was agreed upon to be sent. I am more angry about the organizing cheating than not receiving a jackpot paid in full!

Massiv union is the most obvious and clear bot ring i ever seen. Dont understand why would anyone play there

I caught botting rings on GGPoker recently. Totally shady interactions with their so-called security department/customer service base when I called it out. A lot of shady characters involved with this gaming site, and I am not buying this randomized RNG or any of it's bogus certificates that can easily be obtanied by bribing foreign officals in these corupt countries where they set themselves up.

All of these clubs seems to be running the same exact scam and botting ring. It is apparently a VERY lucrative operation to use social media and influencers to lure real money player into an online nest of cheaters that will rob them blind. Like I said, if the poor sucker wins a few buck the money does not come from the club, but instead the next depositor. These clubs just set up multi-accounts and steal money. Unless you know the peoples and trust them with your life the odds are its a cheaters nest.