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12 October 2020 at 08:13 AM
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by wet work

From what I'm reading I surmise we can put you down for being one of the special few--anointed by none other than yourself lol. Where do you want your gold star? I'm leaning towards forehead 😀 And the post as he wrote it very much implies he's one of the special guys too--even though there are examples to the contrary just this week. Today's big truth revealed to us--Hollywoo

no, millions of people know this stuff

nothing about the various genocides happening around the world is hidden or secret info, it just doesn't have a tom hanks film about it so only millions know it rather than billions

being one of millions doesn't make you special, it just means your opinion doesn't matter for much

it feels cheap and dishonest to put this "there's stuff people don't acknowledge happening" as some absurd elitist nonsense, it's just a poor strawman attack made in bad faith


nothing about the various genocides happening around the world is hidden or secret info, it just doesn't have a tom hanks film about it so only millions know it rather than billions

some are ignored, like Sudan and Syria.

but for some, everyone knows at this point with the reach of social media and the internet. its just that BBC, NYtimes, and all of the Western governments tells us that it is good to kill as many Palestinians as possible. and they will make movies about the baby killers rather than the babies getting decapitated, burned alive, buried alive, and sniped.

and for others, they are just completely fabricated like in China and Ukraine.


by Victor

nope. I just know the West lied about the mass rape in Israel, in Iraq, in Libya, in Ukraine. see the pattern? remember all the articles about Gaddafi or Saddam or Putin giving their soldiers viagra so they could rape more? ofc, I am not saying that a bunch of rape didnt happen during WW2. but I dont think it was to the extent we are told by Russia, and I certainly dont th

iirc nearly all the sources i read were german so probs some truth to exaggeration of it but i imagine it was pretty widespread


by Victor

some are ignored, like Sudan and Syria.but for some, everyone knows at this point with the reach of social media and the internet. its just that BBC, NYtimes, and all of the Western governments tells us that it is good to kill as many Palestinians as possible. and they will make movies about the baby killers rather than the babies getting decapitated, burned alive, buried aliv

I’m very interested to read those articles ?
Can u cite some ?
Thx .


by 57 On Red

The black US population is only about 41 million, so the incarceration rate has serious implications for lawmaking (like the 'three strikes rule', which can see people handed life sentences for relatively minor offences like shoplifting or drug possession -- in California of all places, possession is enough to incur a life sentence under the three-strikes rule, but probably not

I hope you appreciate that DAs and judges have tremendous discretion what to charge suspect with and how to sentence them. And in 21st century CA you would have a very hard time finding a case where it could be argued a suspect was being unduly criminalized because they were black; but you could easily find numerous cases where it could be argued they were given lenient treatment; and this is on top of CA already being fairly lenient (especially in the blue coastal counties where the vast majority of people live).

A progressive Los Angeles DA was recently voted out of office and San Francisco recently had a DA recalled (in part) because of bad press from high profile violent crimes committed by black suspects who you couldn't even wrap your mind around why they were still on the streets after recent violent behavior. This is one high profile case the recalled San Fransisco DA got a tremendous amount of bad press for, where he easily could have invoked the 3 strikes law many crimes ago if he was inclined to do so.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/sf...

In 2025 the 3 strikes law is generally viewed as a last resort to keep repeat violent criminals in jail (for their own safety and that of the community) when there is other way to do so, given CAs very permissive laws. Despite what you might see in movies, it isn't used as a means to unduly incarcerate repeat petty, non violent black criminals.


by rickroll

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Didn't read the recent comments, but the quote got me thinking. Once the lie is accepted, those who lie about that could inadvertently convince others of the truth.


by rickroll

it feels cheap and dishonest to put this "there's stuff people don't acknowledge happening" as some absurd elitist nonsense, it's just a poor strawman attack made in bad faith

But everyone else is a puppet at the magic show...ok 😀


you're just posting in bad faith now, wholly ignoring the substance of everything (which you aren't even addressing) to just poo poo on his phrasing (which i agree was poorly done)

did your wife leave you for dunyain or something? where's all this spazzing coming from? it feels like you're triggered


by rickroll

like just look at how not one but two different posters tried to use to semantics instead of facts to argue that the "we didn't know" mythos was genuinethey could have said "hey this flies against my understanding of it, perhaps i should take a peek at google and see what the truth is" but instead they opt not to and just post nonsense to repeat the lie because they heard of bu

by zers

Didn't read the recent comments, but the quote got me thinking. Once the lie is accepted, those who lie about that could inadvertently convince others of the truth.

First of all, we should get the obvious out of the way. While this quote is often attributed to Goebbels, there is no evidence he ever said it.

Which is somewhat ironic.

On the contrary, while Goebbels was a big proponent of political propaganda, especially in his role as Gauleiter for the Nazi party, he actually regularly contended that propaganda should be based on truth. Now we can probably surmise that the half-truth was often the weapon of choice, but one can still see how this point contradicts the quote.

In Goebbels texts and speeches on the issue you will find a very simple pattern: He focuses on how you convince as many people as people about your politics, ideologies and goals. In addition to propaganda he focuses a lot on delivery, imagery, uniforms, speech patterns and how to cultivate your public persona. In this context the truth and the half truth make more sense than the lie, anybody who has ever done politics knows how difficult it is to argue against a half-truth compared to a lie.

Now, when people find out that this quote is not a verified quote from Goebbels, they often go out to look for quotes that are similar. You can find those, most famously in Mein Kampf regarding the "big lie". However, if you look at them in context they are usually accusations, not admissions. Meaning, they take issue with the supposed lies of others.

I suspect a big reason for the popularity of the quote and tying it to Goebbels is that we assume that the Nazi regime was somehow ashamed of its actions or goals, and that they obfuscated them because they realized how vile they were.

They weren't ashamed. They saw them as necessary. This is the pattern we usually see with persecution and atrocities, we find it in the troikas of the Great Terror, the Red Guards of the Cultural Revolution or the Khmer Rogues' Killing Fields. In the future when we dissect the background of China's re-education camps for the Uyghurs or Russia's mass graves in Ukraine, we will likely find the exact same thing there.


Well, they have a point.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/french-par...

"We gave it to you as a gift, but apparently you despise it. So, it will be just fine here at home," he added.


by biggerboat

Sure they gave the statue when blacks weren't human beings under the american constitution, but it's today that the values of liberty are infringed


by Luciom

Sure they gave the statue when blacks weren't human beings under the american constitution, but it's today that the values of liberty are infringed

what??


by weeeez

what??

Might have been written badly I admit, wanted to mean that Jim crows laws existed with the statue of liberty standing there


by Luciom

Sure they gave the statue when blacks weren't human beings under the american constitution, but it's today that the values of liberty are infringed

Lol. The statue was proposed by the president of the French Anti-Slavery Society and was specifically meant as a tribute to the North winning the war and the abolition of slavery - it traces directly back to the 13th Amendment.


by microbet

Lol. The statue was proposed by the president of the French Anti-Slavery Society and was specifically meant as a tribute to the North winning the war and the abolition of slavery - it traces directly back to the 13th Amendment.

yes yes. Then like what, 10 years after the statue was installed, maybe even less, you get Plessey v Ferguson confirming the constitutionality of Jim Crow laws right? and i have to think that was a smaller violation of liberty than trump doing.. what exactly, stopping money being spent for foreign aliens?


by Dunyain

I hope you appreciate that DAs and judges have tremendous discretion what to charge suspect with and how to sentence them. And in 21st century CA you would have a very hard time finding a case where it could be argued a suspect was being unduly criminalized because they were black; but you could easily find numerous cases where it could be argued they were given lenient treat

And yet the US still has this ludicrous off-the-scale incarceration rate, presumably due to sentencing policy, even though, for crimes other than murder, the country doesn't have a particularly high crime rate compared to other Western democracies.


by 57 On Red

And yet the US still has this ludicrous off-the-scale incarceration rate, presumably due to sentencing policy, even though, for crimes other than murder, the country doesn't have a particularly high crime rate compared to other Western democracies.

Plus they aren't even allowed hot soup. :(


WINNING

"Trump Declares Biden's Autopen-Signed Pardons "Void""

Overnight, President Trump declared that the 11th-hour pardons, including those given to members of Congress who investigated the January 6 insurrection, were "void, vacant, and of no further force or effect, because of the fact that they were done by autopen." Some of those last-minute pardons include Deep Staters, such as former Representative Liz Cheney, retired General Mark Milley, and government scientist Anthony Fauci.

"The "Pardons" that Sleepy Joe Biden gave to the Unselect Committee of Political Thugs, and many others, are hereby declared VOID, VACANT, AND OF NO FURTHER FORCE OR EFFECT, because of the fact that they were done by Autopen," Trump wrote on Truth Social late Sunday night.

The president continued: "In other words, Joe Biden did not sign them but, more importantly, he did not know anything about them! The necessary Pardoning Documents were not explained to, or approved by, Biden. He knew nothing about them, and the people that did may have committed a crime."

He went on to say that members of that House committee are "subject to investigation at the highest level"...

"Therefore, those on the Unselect Committee, who destroyed and deleted ALL evidence obtained during their two year Witch Hunt of me, and many other innocent people, should fully understand that they are subject to investigation at the highest level. The fact is, they were probably responsible for the Documents that were signed on their behalf without the knowledge or consent of the Worst President in the History of our Country, Crooked Joe Biden!"


by BGnight

WINNING"Trump Declares Biden's Autopen-Signed Pardons "Void""Overnight, President Trump declared that the 11th-hour pardons, including those given to members of Congress who investigated the January 6 insurrection, were "void, vacant, and of no further force or effect, because of the fact that they were done by autopen." Some of those last-minute pardons include Deep Staters, s

Forgot to take your pills?
Is this some MAGA rap?

monday morning, president Trump ordered the arrest of twoplustwo forum poster BGnight, effective immediately

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by BGnight

WINNING"Trump Declares Biden's Autopen-Signed Pardons "Void""Overnight, President Trump declared that the 11th-hour pardons, including those given to members of Congress who investigated the January 6 insurrection, were "void, vacant, and of no further force or effect, because of the fact that they were done by autopen." Some of those last-minute pardons include Deep Staters, s


https://apnews.com/article/denmark-europ...

Interesting how US boycott is gaining momentum.


by BGnight

WINNING"Trump Declares Biden's Autopen-Signed Pardons "Void""Overnight, President Trump declared that the 11th-hour pardons, including those given to members of Congress who investigated the January 6 insurrection, were "void, vacant, and of no further force or effect, because of the fact that they were done by autopen." Some of those last-minute pardons include Deep Staters, s

So that mean any persons doing any illegal actions under trump commands could have his pardon void under another president afterwards and still faced justice and be condemn thereafter ?

Winning !


by tame_deuces

First of all, we should get the obvious out of the way. While this quote is often attributed to Goebbels, there is no evidence he ever said it...

For sure. I didn't check the quote's context or accuracy. I wasn't even concerned about the source; just thinking about the quote itself. Solid post though.


by rickroll

you're just posting in bad faith now, wholly ignoring the substance of everything (which you aren't even addressing) to just poo poo on his phrasing (which i agree was poorly done)

did your wife leave you for dunyain or something? where's all this spazzing coming from? it feels like you're triggered

I'm entertaining myself watching you twist yourself into knots trying to tell me it means something completely different than exactly what it says lol

And no, it's more a body of work kinda thing.

Maybe I need a little time I just learned hollywood movies aren't reality yesterday 😀


by Montrealcorp

So that mean any persons doing any illegal actions under trump commands could have his pardon void under another president afterwards and still faced justice and be condemn thereafter ?

Winning !

Not if Trump actually signs the pardon. The left is so lazy and arrogant it thinks it can get away with a fake signature.

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