President Elon Musk

I'm just responding in kind to the type of **** you weirdos internalize on twitter

"Drill baby drill"

"We are going to build hotels on our national parks land"

Freezing EPA assets for "treason"

"Climate change hoax"

"help the environment during a climate crisis"

jfc what are you even talking about

As always, the primary source of conflict here seems to be an unwillingness to acknowledge that most people are pretty normal, and it's really just the highly visible extreme ends of the spectrum that make the news and generate all the content for keyboard warriors to fight over.

I know I need to get off the internet, but I genuinely believe I've settle into a much more healthy attitude toward all of this and can handle my current levels of exposure to the insanity.

I fear for some of you, though. You are a little too invested in the memes and completely unwilling to engage in nuance and gotta simmer down a bit.

I'm not going to specifically shame anyone, but the left needs more Microbets.

Na bud you just posted that “large swaths” of lefties are “committing felonies”

You don’t get to say something so blatantly wrong, hyperbolic, and lifted straight from Elon musk meme twitter then play the moral superiority card.

I personally think cowardly sophistry like that is pathetic

Exactly

Calm Down .
At worst Tesla will get bought by other companies .
Stop the delusion ….

Ps: u really believe all what is falling on Tesla is only due to a salute he made during a speech ?
U should Inform yourself more I think .

What are we even looking at, some car / van / truck can reach the legal limit on the highway?

Yes of course you believe Biden was aiming at EV and not China .
It’s as if u believe how trade war works …

That is why luciom bothers me.
We can’t discredit him like pb2000.
Sometimes luciom makes a lot of sense …

This is fair, and I could've snuck a "support" in front of "willfully committing felonies in broad daylight" to soften the language and paint with a more narrow brush, but there are tens of thousands of celebratory comments on the front page of reddit right now in various threads about all the Teslas that were set on fire today in Las Vegas.

Seems we both have some things to continue to work on.

I've never once seen you engage in nuance. All you do is make broad and completely dismissive assertions about the damn libs and then pretend that you somehow post differently than others here.

Your favorite regularly offered, super strongly held position, let's call it the Inso Prophecy, stated that Trump would NEVER even get CLOSE to winning the GOP nomination in 2024, let alone the Presidency. For this opinion you offered zero nuance beyond alluding to these mysterious "adults in the room" within the GOP who would block Trump (after failing to do so the first time, I guess?)

I'm upset because you got me excited that maybe the Cheeto wouldn't win again. You neglected to tell me that your Adults In The Room were Peter Thiel and Miriam Adelson. 😡

Let's not forget Trump's 1st term thread was by Insoo with a pretty amazing OP.
I'll remember how he was so pumped about getting low cost cruises tickets during covid too.

That said he is probably the one poster that has changed his tune the most since Trump 1st term.
Hopefully he is not an exception.

Anyway, yeah, it's a damn shame that some crazy libs broke the windows of a Tesla plant. Wow. I mean, sure, the right-wing weirdos prefer to get guns and murder dozens of innocent people in cold blood, but it's the "left-wing" terrorism against... buildings, mostly... which need be discussed ad nauseum

Lol at this cuck copium. MAGA always called Teslas soyboy cars, etc. Gtfo with this pivot.

In other news, your boy Musk just took a 3-wood to the vas deferens and will likely never be able to father more children.

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tesla range has not increased dramatically enough to justify the complete about face by idiot MAGAT cultists

try again

Hmm, I feel like I'm pretty good at not speaking in absolutes. I actively look out for it in any post I write after the 2 year self-ban however many years ago. To be fair to you, I didn't really define what I meant by nuance that in the post you quoted.

I admit I can be dismissive at times, but I usually only fall into that trap when I'm dealing with someone who has truly insane takes, such as, "Elon Musk is a Nazi". I see how this would be problematic though, because that's a pretty widely held belief by a fair number of high-volume politics posters in March 2025.

I'll own up to the second part of your post, though. I sit here today still largely baffled that Trump was allowed to run again, and even moreso that he won. The number of things that had to go [strike]right[/strike] wrong for this occur were incredible, but here we are. I didn't support or vote for him in 2020 or 2024, but I also don't actively hate him like so many of you do. He's tolerable.

... barely.

I don't remember this, but I do remember being pretty excited about the entertainment value of the 2016 election results, and having those vibes thoroughly crushed by week 3 of Trump's first term. "Jesus Christ. Someone please just take his phone away" was much of my internal monologue during the early days of Trump. It never improved.

I don't think I am, but the democrats completely shat the bed on taking advantage of the massive opening provided by Trump. The right-wingers are able to trot out soundbite after soundbite and video after video of democrats quadrupling down on identity politics and complaining about Trump instead of building up their own case to average Americans. There's a Simpsons episode I'm probably misremembering where some guy is absolutely at the end of his rope over Homer's shenanigans and he flips the **** out and starts mocking all of the Homerisms, but takes it too far and ultimately gets himself killed by doing something extremely stupid. Instead of seeing Homer in a new light after it's pointed out to them, everyone is like, "Jeez, what was wrong with that guy?" and moves on with their lives.

I feel like that's what dems did with Trump.

Now, here we are with dems at sub-30% approval ratings and you guys are sitting here with straight faces accusing half the voters of being literal Nazis. I've been accused of being a Nazi-sympathizer. I know I'm just some text on a screen, but there's a person behind the text, and you're ostensibly trying to get him closer to your worldview.

Bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for 'em.

Who is saying half the voters are literal nazis?

Its been discussed to death that incumbents all over the globe are losing re-elections at unprecedented levels due to covid having stalled the global economy

Many voters just want to be able to afford to live.

The difference is most voters aren't deep in the trenches having drawn out discussions on these topics for months at a time. Most people haven't seen Elon Musk's full line of work where he promotes things like racism and eugenics. You have have seen this evidence, you have had these discussions. You think I'm making it up, you don't believe me, you don't trust me? Ask Grok, his own AI! It will tell you of many such instances of Musk pushing, promoting, and giving credibility to some of the most vile **** imaginable.

The "I'm with the Outlaw" guys don't like crime now? OK bud.

I’m curious which poster ITT has said ‘half the country are literal Nazis’

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Well I spent about 10 minutes looking through the forum and owe an apology.

I'll preface my comment by saying my experience on reddit does bleed into my posting here on 2p2, which is something I'll have to work on for sure, but posters here are careful to keep the actual labeling of people as Nazis directed at public figures who aren't here to defend themselves and not at actual forum participants.

Literal instances of "Nazi sympathizer" and the like are limited to myself and several other people that I think we'd all agree are right-leaning posters, used as a reactionary defensive statement like mine in the post above. There are references to Nazi-adjacent activities and comments from Gorgo et al where people are accused of following, defending, or idolizing Nazis, but no, I couldn't immediately find something so direct as outright calling another poster an actual Nazi.

Now, one of the mods did recently post, "So please refrain from statements like 'you're a nazi, transphobe, or whatever.' " so I'll assume this did occur to some extent and I obviously can't search for things that have been deleted.

Maybe this is only half an apology, since there's plenty of other spicy rhetoric that dances pretty close to the line. That's all you'll get for today.

You may not have the patience or energy to read through this post so allow me to translate

InsO: yes, you caught me, I’m obviously completely full of shit. But in a way, so are all of you, so maybe I’m not full of shit at all

Sometimes less is more, my guy

No one is saying that he is literally an official member of the National Socialist party.

They are saying that he is an obvious white supremacist and eugenist, born into the ruling class under apartheid, which he would love to have happen in the US, which he wants to populate with good Aryan genes, which he is already trying to do by spawning as many children as possible.

He also enjoys deliberately making use of Nazi symbolism, in order to troll the libs into what he thinks will make them look foolish, while simultaneously acting as a dog whistle to other people who are also white supremacists or at least are already leaning in that direction.

But it's a lot quicker and simpler to say that he's a Nazi. If you disagree with any of the above, please let me know!

Actively denying he did a nazi salute is just pathetic at this point. You can argue about why he did it, but he clearly did it.