AA's on a not great flop.
1/3 8 handed NL
The SB seems to be a tight passive 30 ish woman. She hasn't been involved much in the short time she has been at the table. She is the effective with 515.
I open in the CO to 15 with AsAc, folded to the SB who 3 bets to 40, I 4 bet to 95 and she calls....How is the 4 bet sizing?
(190 in the pot) Jd8h9d...She checks and I check...I'm not sure if that was good or bad. At the time I thought that was a bad flop.
(190 in the pot) Jd8h9dJc...She bets 175, She has 250 left. I don't know how wide her pre flop 3 bet range is. She has opened a couple times but no 3 bets in about an hour. She has yet to show down. She has taken down a couple small pots. I should have a tight image. That's a pretty big turn bet.
I've given her rope to bluff or bet a hand like QQ's for value. I feel like she doesn't have a hand like KJ or QJs, QTs in her range and maybe not AJ. She has cold called a few times in a similar pre flop situation. I suspect she is getting it all in on a blank river. 88's? 99's? It's such a short sample size I really don't know but my read at the moment is that she is tight passive. As I talk through her possible hands I'm starting to think my flop check was bad. Maybe it was better to bet and possibly fold to a CR. If she just called I might be able to keep betting some turns. She could have big diamonds.
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1/3 8 handed NLThe SB seems to be a tight passive 30 ish woman. She hasn't been involved much in the short time she has been at the table. She is the effective with 515. I open in the CO to 15 with AsAc, folded to the SB who 3 bets to 40, I 4 bet to 95 and she calls....How is the 4 bet sizing?(190 in the pot) Jd8h9d...She checks and I check...I'm not sure if that was good or ba
yeah id just bet bet bet and stack QQ and KK.
as played id jam turn because too many cards kill action. if she folds QQ thats not a bad result.
Preflop seems fine, I'd make it $100 but w/e.
I jam turn AP.
More likely QQ or KK than JX. Jam it.
I like the check, its how youll stack QQ KK, and you also might be able to sniff out JJ, or let AK catch up.
Im calling turn and calling river (or shipping myself). I dont think she has many Jx in her range at all.
Preflop 4! sizing is "standard", but bad in live low stakes where most 3!s are big hands and won't fold preflop.
I would just bet, bet. You have enough in there. Bad flop, but doesn't connect well with 3!s KK/QQ/AK or possible bluffs.
As a 4bettor, your range is insanely strong, so you should bet very small. In theory I think villain has nut advantage on this board, but I doubt she 3bet 88s or 99s or even stuff like QJs and JTs. So where that leaves us? Villain has KK, QQ, JJ and some flush draws.
I would call turn, because we are crushing villain's range and a shove might make her fold some naked bluffs.
Grunch:
PRE - When we have AA and she's starting with $515, but she 3B less than 3x from OOP, I think we can increase our 4B sizing a bit. I might go as high as $120.
A normal 3B from OOP would be 4x, to $60, and a normal 4B from IP would be $130-$135, so $120 seems reasonable to me
FLOP - I think theory says we get to liberally c-bet here, for a small size, almost regardless of the flop texture. She could have some sets here, but probably no 2P combos, and no straights. I don't think we should check back, just c-bet 1/3 pot or less, with plans to barrel most run-outs.
TURN - I think this is an okay card. JJ is probably in her 3B range pre, but that's just one combo, and she might have donked with it on the flop. I doubt she's taking this sizing with quads.
Agree she probably has a PP like QQ, maybe also TT. Occasionally she shows up with AJs.
If we flat call turn, I'd expect her to check most rivers. I'd hate seeing a K, Q, T, 7 or another diamond roll off, but otherwise I wouldn't be too concerned about the river.
I'd just call, and see what she does on the river. If she bets on a brick, I'm calling. If she checks, I'm betting.
When someone 3!s at 1/3, they usually are not looking to fold, so I would not go by "theory" or GTO with a small 4! size and small cbet size.
Tight passive 3 bets. This leans heavily AK, QQ, KK as her range, possibly JJ, but lots of tight passives won't 3 bet that, but lets include it. And agree the 4bet call (particularly given your sizing) doesn't mean much, other than she probably doesn't have the last AA combo.
I think I c-bet here given that range. As played feels like a Jam on turn given we really should only be worried about one hand, JJ, of which there is now only one combo.
And I go bigger pre.
