Playing a draw in position

Pre is depending on the blinds. If they are bad, I might call. Otherwise, this seems like a fold against a raise from EP?

I think I would bet this flop. There is a lot of worse hands that can call us (smaller draws, 6x, 8x).

Turn is fine imho.

River I would usually jam here. Granted I would expect a lot of folds unless he made a flush himself but I am not sure he is going to be inclined to call a medium size raise more often with Qx.

I'd take that to mean opponent bets a lot when checked to, but calls a lot facing aggression rather than raising. Generally active. It's pretty common.

I'm mostly folding this modest suited Broadway to an EP 6x raise.

River is awkward, tough to raise-fold with these stacks, does a jam get called by anything other than a flush and how many worse flushes can he have? T9hh and barely any others. Could clickback/fold work?

PRE - I prefer to play 3B or fold in every position that isn't the BTN or BB. Here, I'd 3B KJs.

FLOP - Four ways, I'd just check back.

TURN - Think I'd raise to $100.

RIVER - I'd raise to $200.

LAG but somehow is opening 6x from EP?

Then somehow checks 863?

Then bets big on Q turn?

If description of V was changed to "plays tight ranges pre. and opens big because he has no respect for anyone else's game, and then plays ranges roughly correct postflop ... how would this hand be different?"

I think flop is a mandatory bet. You are in CO and can rep. a lot of stuff on this board, and you have enough equity if you get a call or even a x/r. Also you're the virtual BTN

Turn seems mandatory raise, and go big (at least 135) ... esp. if he has AhQ or QQ or something then you have to pile money in now and he's saying he wants to with the size. Not going broke vs. the nuts is a consideration for preflop bingo call, and esp. with the positions and board it's mostly one combo of AhTh. If you aren't raising turn here then preflop is even worse than normal.
Only reason to call is if he's bluffing a lot, and will continue on rivers, which seems v. unlikely given flop action. Or if he's overvaluing KQ, and will continue on the river but will snap fold to a raise.

If you raise you really can't fold without very good reads that V never bluffs the river, because V has way more NF blockers than NF. As to the actual size, meh ... if you really think your read is good and he likes to call (again, at a glance this could just be V having no respect for other players), then you can go big and maybe even shove. If he's actually competent and rolling his eyes at you, then probably 150 is max and 125 maybe gets V to call a bit more and bluff shove NFB more enough of the time.

Is this the same villain as the other thread you posted?

You know the guy is raising and continuing with absolute garbage pre-flop, so I would 3b pre. As played, I would happily bet-GII on flop.

If I checked flop, then I would always raise turn. Never slowplay against someone who is going to call too often.

Great observation elmcityboy, this is in fact the same Villain from the other thread. In fact I played this hand after the other hand mentioned. So there was some history going into this hand. In retro spect I would have posted this thread much later.

Does this info change the read of Villain? How about Hero’s actions?

My thoughts preflop

Villain raised in late position to $6 with junk last hand. This hand he took it to $12 in early position. Does this mean he has a strong hand?

On the flop

I normally don’t bluff when they’re three or more opponents in the pot. Also Villain who normally bluffs just checked. Is he strong here? Villain most likely would have bet a flush draw.

On the turn

Villain bets and mostly likely doesn’t have flush. If I raise the other players may fold. If I flat I can keep Villains bluffs in.

On the River

I wanted to raise to a sizing that would keep Villain in. I went $125. After reading these posts I think I went too small. He is not calling with any of his bluffs but he will call with a lot thinking I could be bluffing since I didn’t raise turn. What if Villain shoved?

Villain calls and show pocket sixes for a flopped set.

What does everyone think?

I would assume that anyone who is raise-calling 52o (as V did in the other HH) is going to be making significant mistakes pre- and post-flop and I would feel highly incentivized to get heads up in position versus them. KJs is more than strong enough to re-raise here against this guy, even when he chooses a 6x raise size. As you mentioned in your other thread, he sometimes chooses a 12x sizing -- that is the sizing that I would be more wary of with a suited broadway hand.

You emphasize the above point when you say "I normally don’t bluff when there are three or more opponents in the pot." That means you are basically opting to play bingo versus a whale, which isn't really a winning strategy. If you are heads up, you can bluff (and bluff-catch) way more easily, which is important when your opponent is showing up with lots of trash.

I would also make a distinction between betting two overs with a good flush draw IP and "bluffing multiway." Your hand has so much equity that a bet on this board (which also favors your perceived range) is basically a value bet against the weak ranges of your opponents. If you get three calls, you can check back brick turns and even check back some brick rivers knowing that KJ has a sliver of showdown value against busted straight and flush draws. As I mentioned in my first post, if V check-raises your flop stab (as it seems like he was trying to do) I would be fine getting this hand all-in.

As played, you coolered a whale and didn't get his entire stack, which is kind of a problem. The river raise size is way too small against a guy who doesn't fold.

EDIT: I would also include a condensed version of the prior HH in the first post here. I suspect you will get more nuanced responses if people have a better idea of this guy's range and playstyle.

Maybe. Maybe it just means he realizes a $6 raise doesn't do anything and he's trying to find a better size. Maybe he thinks he should be opening larger from EP and smaller from LP. Maybe he's stuck in random nonsense mode. We need more info to know what he's doing.

Good policy about not bluffing into multiple opponents. As for V checking, maybe he just completely missed and has learned bluffing into multiple opponents doesn't work. Maybe he thinks he's trapping and hoping you'll stab the flop, or one of the blinds will stab on the turn if the flop checks through.

He could have some flushes. Some better, most worse. Or he could be bluffing to rep the flush. Or he could have flopped something good that he decided not to bet for some reason. Or he just turned top pair and is betting for value.

The other players checked twice. They would have bet the turn if they had anything. They'll mostly be folding whether we raise or flat call, so let's not worry about keeping them in the hand, and focus on V, the pre-flop aggressor.

If you flat, yes, you keep V's bluffs in, but you also allow V to dictate the size of the pot going to the river, which could be an action-killing card, and we fail to get value from V's draws or worse value hands that will call if we raise.

Your focus should be on maximizing value with your strong hands, not getting called more often. Instead of thinking about what size raise gets called most often, which will lead you to go smaller, think about what is the largest size raise you can make that V will call with his stronger hands, which will lead you to bet larger.

As you said, he's not calling with any of his bluffs, so we really just need to focus on getting max value from the strong hands in his range, the ones that can bluff-catch, or that he isn't good enough to fold.

V raised pre, bet over 3/4 pot on turn, and then bet 1/2 pot on the river. That sort of line is usually going to be a bluff, or some sort of thin value that's block-betting the river because he doesn't want to call a bigger bet.

When our opponent is betting linearly with value, we can raise larger. My default river raise size is 4x, but I'll adjust up or down depending on the situation. Here, you've got $300 behind facing V's $50 bet into a $110 pot. If you make it $200, the pot will be $360, and he'll have to call off another $150, laying him better 2.4 to 1.

Since you didn't 3B pre, didn't bet the flop, and didn't raise turn, it's going to be difficult for him to believe you have a really strong hand when you suddenly wake up and put in a chunky raise on the river.

I wouldn't hate an all-in jam, but I think leaving yourself $100 behind could look like you're bluffing, but not willing to fully commit. He might spaz and stick the rest in for you. Seems like low-stakes recs can find a hero fold facing huge over-bet jams, but it's harder for them when they're being laid good odds and the situation makes it look plausible that an opponent could be bluffing.

As for the reveal - take note that he foolishly opted to trap after flopping a set, after two of his three opponents checked to him, and then started to bet his hand for value and protection on a nut-changing card, using a larger size, and barreled river using a size that may as well have made his hand face up.

He's making a ton of mistakes. He should have just bet the flop for value, used a smaller size on the turn, and then check-evaluated the river. He could have made this hand more difficult for you to get value, and you could have gotten more value by capitalizing on his mistakes.

Raze.

You have the second nuts on a board where villain could have 2 pairs / lower flushes and their bet is probing on the turn. Id much rather donk turn and keep in their lower flushes and 2 pair hands than check raise and have villain get off the hook.

Raise the turn. Get money in ASAP.