PFR flopped a set and facing river shove

I don't see how we're folding our set getting 2:1, especially when there are no flushes and very few straights our opponent could have. This is really a snap call.

If he has 99, then good for him.

I don't think I can ever fold here. I probably bet the flop, too, trying to build a pot.

Flop check is terrible, particularly with somewhat connected mid to high board, and you have bottom set, so you aren't blocking anything significant.

I'd bet this flop.

As played I call. Loads of hands you beat here: worse value (K9, K8, 66), heart draws, JT, 76, 87. The only hand you're afraid of is 99 and you might expect that to bet the flop once checked to (in fairness, it's an odd line whatever holding he has). Maybe he shows up with a straight once in a while. That said, it really is a massive show of strength.......

Grunch:

PRE - seems standard.

FLOP - why are we checking?

We've got one opponent in front and one behind. It doesn't seem likely that the one behind is going to stab at the pot, multi-way, on a K-high flop that would favor our range as the PFR. I'd just c-bet, for 1/2 pot.

TURN - Good raise. Worrisome that V1 calls next to act, and V2 comes along. There's no flush draw, so this looks like someone is open-ended or has 2P or better. I wonder how often V1 flats on the BTN with something like T7s or 75s. If he's new to the table, I wouldn't rule it out.

RIVER - When we raise turn and get 2 calls, I think I'd just check the river, when there's 3 to a straight on board, we don't block it, conceivably one of these guys might show up with 99, and we double-block the most likely 2P combo of 98. I'd be checking to check-call, hoping V1 gets out of line with a worse hand for value.

When we bet $200 into $360 and get raised all in for another $480, it's pretty gross. But I don't see how we can fold, when we'll have so much Kx in our range. Maybe V has a better hand. I don't see how he could ever be bluffing. But he could be over-valuing worse, like 66, 98, or maybe some weird 2P with KX, like K6s.

Bet the flop so calling this river is easier.

Results:

You don't slow play 88 on K98 because you now have 3rd nuts. QJT765 make potential straights. You want to get in 3 bets.

We're supposed to go broke set over set.

That said, we don't have to. If we c-bet the flop we could slow down and check turn. When the flop checks through, we raise turn, and get two calls, we really need to be careful about how much more money we put into the pot on the river.

Tough spot no matter what, though, and no one is going to beat you up for losing the max, especially when BTN checks back the flop with middle set. That sneaky bastard.

Both players made mistakes slow playing sets on this flop.

You can slow play top set on a dry board, not middle or low set on a mid to high somewhat connected board.

FPS.

I played it poorly. But in consolation, I probably was going to lose the max anyway.

Checking flop is no bueno. Generally speaking, sets belong in the pure betting range. The range you can check are hand like KT/KJ/QQ/JJ that you don't think can generate 3 streets of value and you don't want to inflate the pot with.

Sets, AK/AA and maybe even KQ are pure bets for value. Checks would be vulnerable hands that you want to protect your checking range with, hands you don't want to inflate the pot with and air.

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