1/3 Ac3c in the cutoff
Game was pretty loose passive pre-flop. I had 300 and villain had me covered.
1/3 9 handed. Three limpers to me with
If that's right, it sounds like all we're doing is trying to cooler our opponents by flopping or otherwise making a big hand, or bluff-catch with marginal hands. It sounds more like Bingo than Poker, inasmuch as it doesn't seem to leverage the leaks which exist within the player pool.
You're not the first to describe this method as Bingo poker, but the thing is that we're much better than the majority of our opponents at Bingo poker, so we're perfectly fine engaging in it. Preflop we're playing far less hands from far less positions for far less money than our opponents are, and postflop we're winning more with the best of it and losing less with the worst of it (i.e. it actually does take advantage of player pool leaks). It is by no means a "bad" method (although you can certainly argue whether it is the best method).
A crapload of players at this level are *so* very very bad. So attempting to simply see a cheap flop with all of them with a speculative hand, especially with a nut making one, especially in position, especially for the minimum 1bb when many bbs deep (i.e. IO thru the roof), can simply never be "bad". Optimal (whatever that really means)? Who knows... but good luck proving either way.
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When we have a baby suited ace in a 7 way pot, yes we definitely are playing bingo! We're tryna make a NF to felt everyone (just like when we limp or flat with a small or med PP while setmining - is setmining playing bingo too then?). And sometimes we'll even flop top two or even a FH as an unexpected bonus, not a bad investment for a weak dog crap of a hand.
You're not the first to describe this method as Bingo poker, but the thing is that we're much better than the majority of our opponents at Bingo poker, so we're perfectly fine engaging in it. Preflop we're playing far less hands from far less positions for far less money than our opponents are, and postflop we're winning more with the best of it and losing less with the worst
I have to admit your arguments are starting to sound persuasive.
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should have been an easy give up.
These games are just so technically basic and you'll get plenty of better "face up" opportunities.
I'm OK with the limp/call pre in many of today's games, but a raise is better.
Flop is fine once they all check and only BTN is behind. Turn I check behind. The board is terrible and we don't have much left. See a river.
As played, river is obviously a fold.
Limp/call is clearly better than raising pre. You want to keep the money deep and you don't want a 3!. Raising is better than limping in general, but not here.
Betting the wet flop is bad. The turn bet is worse.
On the river, you beat some other busted draws, but you can't call.
Turn bet is atrocious. Almost never getting a fold, rarely the favorite, and you could get checkraised and blown off your equity.
River is actually a decision. He check/called on the wet board and then donk shoved the river. Maybe he hit something, but it looks like a lower flush draw. If he had a big made hand, why wouldn't he raise to flop or turn with all the draws out there.
