2/2 live AQJ4ds

Oh also we are all doing $10 btn straddles. So it's more like 2/2/10. That's how I was able to make it $65. Hero on btn. Accidentally left that out.

Bet too much on flop. I like $125-$150 multi-way. In multi-way spots i like a 40-50% pot bet in all nodes and in theory multi-way is always just a. 50% sizing in solves I’ve seen. As an exploit I don’t mind a 66-75% sizing if our hand is uber nutted and players call too lose. I almost never use pot and I don’t think silver does either. Your hand is fine to use at the 75% sizing but keep in mind when you use the sizing you bet more polar but less hands overall.

Turn opponent can still be uncapped due to large sizing on flop but this is effectively a blank. I don’t mind pot or check. Hand is indifferent im sure to either sizing in human land.

There is no folding the turn XR and the runout is the runout.

All in all I think well played just minor nuances due to multi-way pot.

Looks fine. Raise pre, bet flop, bet turn all normal.

Choosing a flop sizing is the most interesting part of the hand. Maybe smaller is better vs fishy opponents, but not too important I imagine. Hero can focus on value extraction this type of opponent and not be as concerned with balance.

Your hand is huge, getting money in is a good result. It’s not great he jams but that’s just one of many results of our turn bet, and we have loads of equity when behind.

I agree with the posts above. Well played -- may the runout favor you.

Looks fine, maybe a little smaller on the flop.

Just to point out, Qs is in your hand, so it can't be on the flop. Assume Qh10s3s flop?

A high spades, J high hearts = AsQsJh4h

How do we have loads of equity if behind? 15% on the turn against a set TT98. Maybe a little worse than that against some hand.

However, I agree you can't fold after potting in and getting raised.

This isn’t right. I think we still have 25% equity even against the worst hand ever to be up against which I think is KJQQ with spades

What about the parts of our range that need to extract value but aren’t strong enough to play for stacks more than 500bb deep?

Are we just not betting hands like wraps with FD blockers or middle set?

Or are we mixing our bet size strategy?

Do we care about balance?

There’s a lot more you need to dive into here lol.

I already wrote over 400 words. And it was meant as a general concept not a novel. I left off a lot obviously, such as for example, most of the posters above "might" be over valuing our hand against 3 opponents (12 cards), etc. And the above posts show that most humans are often using one bet size, I'm simply throwing out the idea that that one bet size here could be to go after the high V stack size you are up against as a general concept instead of mindless, "always bet x%". And I'm talking within reason because anything over a flop SPR of 13 is more than you can get in heads up by yourself anyway. This was something like flop SPR of 10.5 without me looking back up at top. So get creative, have some damn fun, tweak your ranges to actually get an opponents whole stack which the gift that keeps giving when deep.

What I do know is that if I check thread after thread I barely see any discussion about the pot limit nature of the game or any version of that like stack to pot SPR. I don't post much, I just come out of the woodwork to say something time to time about SPR ideas or double board bomb pot. What I will say is that if you watch some social media streaming like Youtube or Twitch, you will see some bb/100 crusher that have all the preset pot sizing like 1/3, 1/2, 2/3, 3/4, whatever and what often goes un-notice is that there are times they click the preset and then use the + or - button to raise or lower the bet to tweak it to get their opponents whole stack on future streets.

You essentially mentioned this bet size as fine yourself. LOL.

What I did in my post was not only say it is fine, but it positions Hero to get the entire stack of highest stacked villain.

Our bet size discussions are highly predicated on stack pot ratios and remaining stacks is a thing that comes up a huge anount; when it's not brought up directly it's still something the better posters will be designing their bet sizes around; and betting pot is frequently a game theoretical nightmare. The fact it's pot limit is not a good argument for betting pot, the same way the ability to castle your king on move 4 does not mean that's the best play automatically.

It's nice to get in a lot of money with our strong hands but against remotely thinking opponents that leaves us unbalanced and easy to read.

And against fish you try and take their whole damn stack before someone else does. Even more important when the fish is deep.

True.

And you need to account for the fact that the fish may come along for a smaller bet with a much wider range of very weak hands. A bigger bet narrows his range, so you might be taking his stack more often with a bigger bet, but you make more profit overall with a smaller bet.

You are probably the worst old time poster on here as you often double down on your bullcrap. A bigger bet narrowing a player's range not the definition of what fish do. Generally speaking, fish are indifferent to bet size, especially preflop and on the flop. And in this particular thread we are talking 50% versus 75% NOT 50% versus pot. Pot gets people attention, less than pot seems like all you are doing is betting your normal bet size and they come along in their normal fishy way.

You crap up many threads where you are wrong and then spend multiple posts trying to dance around the truth.

So much for 'yes and'

Can we double check the math here? I see a nfd nut gutter and possible boat outs.

15% implies 6 outs no?

Pretty sure the worst shape we can be in is when we're up against AQQJ against which we have 8.5 outs giving us 21.25%.

Explain to me how you had the Qs in your hand and on the board.