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$1/2. Table playing very tight passive. Almost nobody is raising except H. I assume V1 & V2 have noticed but not sure.
H UTG +1 $450. MAWG. LAG
V1 UTG +2 $225 late 20’s Indian woman. Has played passive (not raising AQ several times), folding AQ face up on A25 8 turn to aggression. But did pay me off in medium pot w/ TP on a soaking wet run out for 3 small to medium streets.
V2 BTN. $200. late 50’s WG. Newer to table. Limited time so assume ABC rec.
H opens for $10 (standard). Table is playing small. V1 & V2 call.
Flop ($30)
9h8x2h
H is first to act. Lot going through H’s head. Flop misses H’s range but smashes his hand. Flop could connect well with V’s + overpairs for both are in play. Plus the board is really wet with draws but obviously we block every logical made hand except 88.
So H bets, c/r, or c/c?
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If playing in an active game, I'd x/c and look to x/r turns since Vs likely missed but one would probably try stabbing. In a passive game like this sounds like, I'm just leading small. A lot of the time you have to do your own betting in these games and they aren't going to bet their FD or bluff.
I'd throw out $15. If called, size up on non-flush turns.
$25ish seems good because people won't put us in a tough position as much as a good player would on bad runouts so we can just play perfectly ott after going for max value otf
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You strongly block top pair, but this is a fairly wet flop with a lot of possible draws and appears to be a bad flop for you range. I would cbet. You don't want to give 2 players a free card on the wet board.
Against players who aren’t gonna cause us trouble we should just bet how much our hand is worth. With the nuts on a wet board let’s bet 30.
Thanks everyone. As I said, seems pretty simple. H cbet $10 as I’d been doing frequently and both V’s folded. Raising pre, flopping nuts, cbetting first to act and watching both V’s fold made me question the logic.
You can't give free cards on the wet board even though you strongly block top pair. The 1/3 pot sizing was bad. If no one has anything, no one has anything.
You have absolute current nuts on the flop, but won't have if a heart, Q/J/T/8/7/6/5/2 hits. I think that is about 3/4 of the deck. If it was 952,r, then you should probably slow play 99 and hope for an overcard to hit.
I would lead out $20 against a passive line up.
Sounds like a horrible game, and I'd ask for a table change.
As for the hand:
PRE - Seems fine. But I wonder if we could open a tad bigger, when we're getting multiple callers.
FLOP - It's a wet, connected, and dynamic board. I'd just bet out for 2/3 pot, and pray someone wants to put in a raise.
Never open for $10 if rake collection happens at $10 boundries (almost everywhere).
I'd normally range check this flop when I opened UTG+1 ... so probably wouldn't even think more than that about it.
If you bet I think it should be higher than $10, because you aren't betting much even as an exploit.
