Bodybuilding Classic Physique Division Offseason log
You know you who it is already. Can't recall my old password or even what email I used so here we are. I promised I'd st
surprised the cabbie offered that, i would have figured most would assume you'd just bang for free
I’ve had a few opportunities over the years for this - well….way before my marriage so 20+ years ago. ‘**** me while my husband sits in the corner and watches. He might join in, but only with me’ type stuff
I could never talk myself into it, even with one of the women who was really v attractive. Just don’t need to be in the same room as another man’s erection! Similar tbh with the MMF 3 somes I had. Just couldn’t really enjoy them.
This new leg/lower day is awesome. One issue I run into is that I really need to limit time in the gym with my work schedule to be in bed on time and leg press is often taken up by a f4ggot, r3tard, or subhuman scum and it's impossible to work in with anyone on this machine, so what if I did rfess one workout and ffess the other workout? that sounds diabolical. FFESS is more qu
only way I feel like the hack squat working for me is when I focus my entire mind on driving all the energy through my heels. As soon as I start feeling it in my toes/the balls of my feet then I lost all sense of feeling the muscles working properly
have you ever tried using the hack squat machine the other way around? ie, facing towards the back support to do a forward facing 30degree squat. I see bros doing it but it I just can't see how it's a good spine position
only way I feel like the hack squat working for me is when I focus my entire mind on driving all the energy through my heels. As soon as I start feeling it in my toes/the balls of my feet then I lost all sense of feeling the muscles working properlyhave you ever tried using the hack squat machine the other way around? ie, facing towards the back support to do a forward facing
This is for hamstring/glute emphasis. But it's mostly inferior to things like good mornings/sldl/rdl/lbbs.
IDK I'll probably just play final fantasy 5 on my phone for 20 minutes until whatever drooler is finished with it.
I am getting radicalized by Carl Benjamin. I gotta stop watching because each one feels me with indignant "**** it, put them all back in the kitchen" rage. He's a fat bearded ugly guy who married a single mom and just generally a lot less ******ed than andrew tate so it's much harder for the woke zealots to mock him. Andrew tate is legit a ret4rd and a criminal who is not good for men at all in case my stance on that wasn't immediately obvious.
Yesterday steps 8.6k but spent a solid 45 minutes posing and adjusting my mandatories. Trying to figure out a good transition from ab+thigh and favorite classic pose (arnold pose).
I'm back up to 95kg and pretty well filled out. I've still been eating strictly but a bit more food/less activity. I injected 0.5mg retatrutide this morning and I'm gonna get back on slow steady weight loss cals/steps from today.
Swapping to flat db press instead of incline because my upper chest ends up sore but not really the lower chest. Will take this upper session lighter, the barbell incline a bit harder. Can't go hard on every single session in a deficit.
Sometimes they might just want a different Chad.
Maybe even an inferior one if it means experience new type of Chadness
Of course, that is true.
I'm told that some people have open relationships where only one partner is open and the other is monogamous. Maybe our hero can find someone who will be OK with that but not for a reason that isn't a complete dealbreaker. I don't recommend he hold his breath, but if such a unicorn should happen along, why not?
Of course, that is true.
I'm told that some people have open relationships where only one partner is open and the other is monogamous. Maybe our hero can find someone who will be OK with that but not for a reason that isn't a complete dealbreaker. I don't recommend he hold his breath, but if such a unicorn should happen along, why not?
I'm frankly sick of indulging this topic. Nobody can tell me what to do or give me useful advice, nor will you find me asking for advice. Talking about my relationship with a person I thought was a good friend actually probably resulted in me getting very misguided and the relationship continuing way longer than it should have with that Thai woman. Even if you never explicitly ask for advice but just share stories/date reports, whatever you get back is "feedback" that might influence your behaviour with that person. Even silence as a response is a form of feedback. This person did not exactly have a great relationship himself so in retrospect it was very stupid to ever consult him for advice, either explicitly or implicitly. So generally now I keep everything private, even from my very closest IRL friends and family. Not a soul... in a way it's like giving your partner a more authentic version of yourself in the initial stages if there's literally 0 outside input from anyone in your social circle because literally none of them know she exists.
That said, I'm not h8ing on any of you guys; I can see why this is very interesting because somebody like me is the incredibly rare case of a male who's been at both ends of the attractiveness spectrum and got to enjoy the higher physical attractiveness coinciding with having more general insight. And I mean this even after moving to China, where when I first got here I was not exactly an appealing option and was still many years from figuring things out. But unfortunately this is not like the prime era N1H log; and I actually think if he'd not been influenced by his readers (most of whom were incel neckbeard obese guys larping as romantically successful men "a true king takes what he wants" poster case-in-point), he might have had a more satisfying relationship. Some things are just better kept private.
Now as some sort of "apology" to the bystanders who just had to read my finger wagging post at people who visit this log for glimpses into my romantic life (gtfo if so, your kind aren't welcome here. This is a place for winners, go find that on reddit.), I will grant you an update of what's actually important. I believe we'll be around 20 weeks out on Saturday. This is a great point to be 20 weeks out and I still have a lot of "resources" to work with when/if I stall on fat loss. Still only at 300mg caffeine+10mg yohimbine and don't feel a need to increase. Retatrutide will be .5mg E5D for four more shots, so we still have room to max out caffeine+yohimbine, get retatrutide up to appetite suppressing doses, and add clen+t3 (t3 will never go over 25mcg) as cards to play. You probably won't get any further updates until we're at least 8 weeks out and looking very very good.
Two different Front Double Biceps poses, one with vacuum one with flexed abs. Two different ab and thigh and I will be doing both on stage and in check-ins.







Sorry for weird angle on arnold pose; 2nd time using this as my checkin setup as far as camera position, angle, and lighting and still figuring it out.
I don't know anything about anything, but I'd say you're looking pretty damn good for 20wks out
I'm gonna say something not very body-builder like: I'm super happy with my physique. Like just as a walking around everyday life type of thing, i love teh way I look. My proportions and strong and weak points and all of it... super pleased. From a bodybuilding judging perspective there's strengths and weaknesses and improvements to be made, but in terms of just feeling huge and aesthetic and lean and strong, I'm basically already at peak. Lighting is really **** so irl in most settings I look a bit harder. And if I do everything right and don't eat like an a*shole, I can have this level of bodyfat be around the top end of what I ever reach during an offseason.
Very good upper workout with a surprise PR even
Warmup for over 20 minutes chatting with an Australian friend who lives in HK
Flat db press: 40kgx12, 10, 8 all paused obv
v-handle pulldowns: 80kgx19 (tie pr lower bw less anabolics), 80kgx12, 9
machine flies: 40kgx3xfail didn't even count b/c who cares lol pressing/flying is whatever at this point
underhand straight bar cable rows: 60kgx11, 50kgx11, 9
Our gym has 2 cable row machines which are seldom in use. I'll try this for an alternative horizontal pull and play with different attachments/unilateral for a while to see how I feel. V-handle cable rows are a joke as lord loco pointed out 10+ years ago, but when you use other attachments that allow for more ROM it's a reasonably good exercise for somebody like me who's hitting heavy RDLs and can't realistically handle recovering from both barbell rows and RDLs each week. Unilateral you can get a lot of rom too and I remember that being really popular with bodybuilder guys in the gym a decade ago as an alternative.
bayesian curls: 11.75kgx18, 9, 8
triceps+delts superset: wgaf whatever 3 rounds
steps accidentally got up to 16k somehow
food: a bit high, so far
M1 200g wild rice+50g sweet potato+185g ground chicken no fats
M2 shrimp dumplings, an egg, some other shitty xiaolongbao
M3 200g sweet potato+180g lean sirloin steak
M4 300g greek yogurt, 20g almond butter, 25g honey (!!!)
One apple after meal 1
Prob gonna get in another small meal of around 100g sweet potato and 100g ground chicken before bed.
Another trip to Shenzhen this weekend. now I know 'do not refeed or try to fill out, just eat until full and not more or you're gonna fk yourself up"
Weekend after that.. probably yet another trip.
Shooting a few videos with my cousin (forgot if I mentioned it but he's a professional tiktoker in China, Chinese tiktok douyin, not foreign trash brainrot tiktok). Not "aspiring tiktoker", his average monthly income is probably finally ahead of mine now.
Guy,
Couple things. Firstly, you assume this advice is optimized for "Guy being the happiest version of Guy" and not "What is the most entertaining path for me to read about". I can't, in earnest, believe that N1 doing G4P is in his best interest. But it would be amazing to read about. Second, I'm reminded of the anecdote "It is never your successful friends posting motivational quotes."
I have no idea if this is the appropriate level of lean for 12 weeks out. But I always enjoy more gay fap material.
I don't really get it. I watched a bit of that video and it just seems boring and whatever. Not sure how to have a strong response to anything in it tbh. Just seems like whatever.
I'm frankly sick of indulging this topic. Nobody can tell me what to do or give me useful advice, nor will you find me asking for advice.
I didn't even notice someone giving you advice recently. Unless you mean all the cuck chad whatever nonsense. That was everyone just taking a piss - no way anyone was giving any real advice there.
I do find whatever glimpses into your relationships interesting. Not completely sure why - you definitely weren't at the bottom end of the physical attractiveness spectrum, that is just BS afaict. But, okay, I'm fine with you claiming that you came a long way and have achieved a quality of aesthetics that us normies don't touch.
I'm gonna say something not very body-builder like: I'm super happy with my physique.
This seems like the biggest win I've heard from you in a while. The better job and/or more/less money and/or more less hotties to bang and/or have a real relationship is all well and good, but this is a fitness log. You have achieved greek god loco (tm) status. Although, let's be real, I'm not sure he was ever actually fully satisfied with his aesthetics even though he talked a big greek god game.
I don't really get it. I watched a bit of that video and it just seems boring and whatever. Not sure how to have a strong response to anything in it tbh. Just seems like whatever.
We know.
I didn't even notice someone giving you advice recently. Unless you mean all the cuck chad whatever nonsense. That was everyone just taking a piss - no way anyone was giving any real advice there.
I didn't notice any true advice either, though apparently some posts were interpreted as such. Nor would I presume to be able to advise Evo specifically given the vast differences between us in life philosophies (or at least how they manifest) and the respective cultural milieus in which we each exist.
I do find whatever glimpses into your relationships interesting. Not completely sure why - you definitely weren't at the bottom end of the physical attractiveness spectrum, that is just BS afaict. But, okay, I'm fine with you claiming that you came a long way and have achieved a quality of aesthetics that us normies don't touch.
My interpretation was that he was talking about more than just pure aesthetics, and more of his interpretation of his SMV in the West; I disagreed then and still disagree now with what I recall his thoughts to have been, but we are what we believe we are and all that. No one figured that out more than young Monte (though not young enough to cut a Thremp like swath through the southeastern PA heaux population).
Guy,Couple things. Firstly, you assume this advice is optimized for "Guy being the happiest version of Guy" and not "What is the most entertaining path for me to read about". I can't, in earnest, believe that N1 doing G4P is in his best interest. But it would be amazing to read about. Second, I'm reminded of the anecdote "It is never your successful friends posting motivational
The N1H golden era was maybe 5-7 years back when he had a different log thread, was still failing as a poker pro, hadn't transitioned to coffee yet, and was in the beginning of his lifting career. He ended up involved with some slightly older white woman who was into receptive anal. Prior to meeting her and during the relationship, a lot of non health and fitness people from other parts of 2p2 invaded the log and kept giving a lot of unsolicited advice about his dating life. Some of them were "what is most entertaining for me to read about" but a lot were posting more seriously. I was among the chorus giving a lot of advice about career/lifting/development stuff and I think he needed that. But there were a lot of larpers who didn't know anything about women either from first hand experience or legitimate research and were reciting idiotic red pill alpha pua talking points they'd never actually used and the whole thing was extremely cringe, like his dating and relationship life was getting crowdsourced. But it was extra cringe because the people offering advice were very obviously clueless and probably ugly gross fat neckbeards.
In the end he somehow doxxed himself and one of the loser neckbeard fatties ended up trying to trainwreck him somehow. It was an example of the most pathetic behaviour small dicked energy of 2p2 users.
I re-counted and I'm 18 and 21 weeks out, but yeah I probably could get it done in 12 weeks but with a worse look and poor health going into the next muscle growth phase. Slow and steady with minimal PED toxicity.
This seems like the biggest win I've heard from you in a while. The better job and/or more/less money and/or more less hotties to bang and/or have a real relationship is all well and good, but this is a fitness log. You have achieved greek god loco (tm) status. Although, let's be real, I'm not sure he was ever actually fully satisfied with his aesthetics even though he talked a
Thanks bro. And yeah I ended up taking the higher paying job instead of the lower paying one with less hours. Less risk and I do legitimately enjoy teaching; I'm not sure if stepping away to focus on coaching is even a good idea and in my best case estimate it'd probably take a good 2 years of full time coaching and marketing to reach the level of income I'd get at the new job, but minus all the benefits and very clearly I will not enjoy the social media part of the coaching gig which is where you spend 90%+ of your time in the beginning phase. Even if you hire somebody to manage ig/youtube/tiktok stuff for you, you've still got a lot of filming, writing, podcast appearances, and what are essentially warm lead sales calls to do.
You have to be so far along in a coaching career to have your day just be filled with writing protocols and reading/responding to client checkins and questions rather than the scrambling for clients and maximizing eyeballs and exposure.
Loco had too limited a mindset about what's possible natty, is too old and propagandized to think for himself wrt peds, and thinks his advanced age is more of an obstacle to his greek god goals than it really was. But he looked fantastic at his peak, not taking that away from him at all.
I like your careful phrasing with the hotties/relationship stuff. It's my life and my destiny is in nobody's hands but mine.
Lastly, I'd like to start BJJ after the second show. Obviously where I am now doesn't even have it. 2 of my clients still do BJJ 2x/wk on top of bodybuilding/powerlifting. The one I spoke of before benched 180, missed 185 weighing 98kg. He's been doing BJJ something like 15 years consistently while lifting. Dr. Mike still does it. I'd like to at least try it out, but maybe I don't like it and don't stick with it.
Thanks bro. And yeah I ended up taking the higher paying job instead of the lower paying one with less hours. Less risk and I do legitimately enjoy teaching; I'm not sure if stepping away to focus on coaching is even a good idea and in my best case estimate it'd probably take a good 2 years of full time coaching and marketing to reach the level of income I'd get at the new job,
congrats on the new higher paying job. Is it in a city and a part of the city that seems conducive to good gyms and an enjoyable life?
re your coaching goals....my guess is that the most important thing you can do in the short term is Ace this upcoming show? Which you seem well on the way towards doing. IDK what your goals are for your coaching clients but my guess is that a carded bodybuilder can attract more serious and potentially higher paying clients.
And then even if the judging doesn't go your way, the on stage pics will be another great part of building awareness and acquiring new clients
congrats on the new higher paying job. Is it in a city and a part of the city that seems conducive to good gyms and an enjoyable life?re your coaching goals....my guess is that the most important thing you can do in the short term is Ace this upcoming show? Which you seem well on the way towards doing. IDK what your goals are for your coaching clients but my guess is that a c
I am not concerned with a pro card. I'm concerned with being the most conditioned man on stage that day, nothing else is within my control but that is. It'd be cooler to win it later in 2027 or so as to be able to compete on a pro stage shortly afterword. Winning a pro card and then needing to take a full 2-3 years before getting on stage again is a little bit lame. You can't do any amateur competitions anymore if you win a pro card. Winning in a huge blowout where you just crush the next closest person is also frankly cooler than barely winning.
Attracting clients? jeez... idk, the card does less for attracting clients overall as it does for attracting the right clients. If i wanted to make as much $ as possible, I'd just market to ******ed normies using ******ed normie ways and language and sell shitty minimalistic coaching service to get people who barely lift sorta on the right track. I'd rather specialize in the hardcore competitor niche, make sure my service is really high quality and delivering extremely good physiques to stage with minimal negative health effects or extreme levels of suffering, and have just a few clients I have a good personal relationship with and I know who they are on a human level. This approach would mean less money but it'd be infinitely more enjoyable. I need more firsthand experience both with my own bodybuilding and my current clients before I can really deliver the quality service I want to this niche.
Like using retatrutide... I've got 1.5 clients on it right now. One real srs guy one guy who's falling off and will just skip 2 weeks of workouts and stop prepping meals randomly and I don't ahve the energy to stay on top of him. I feel like if I'm going to be prescribing GLP1s to paying clients, I better have both firsthand and client experience, including with troubleshooting when side effects come up.
My glutes and hams are still sore; I'll hit sldls as prescribed but ham curls I'm gonna have to go a little lighter. Leg press barely targets glutes but I haven't done it in a while so that'll end up being lighter as well.
Guy,
Yeah, I remember all the old N1 stuff. It was quite the journey. I'm not sure he ever addressed why he was sleeping on the floor in the living room and whether he actually was ESL.
But just so I understand your life choices. You plan on adding rolling around with sweaty men with your legs wrapped around them in addition to getting up on stage and flexing your ass muscles for throngs of homosexual men while wearing a dong thong? No judgment, but that does umm... seem to signal a preference for leisure activities.
Grats on the new jerb and the ability to pursue you own personal interests.
Don't forget posting semi-nudes on the internet! That too.
I personally don't see the association with muscle sculpting contests or learning how to fight with gayness, but i can still understand the opposite perspective.
Congrats on the job! Is the process to interview, get an offer, and accept typically this quick?
Don't forget posting semi-nudes on the internet! That too.
I personally don't see the association with muscle sculpting contests or learning how to fight with gayness, but i can still understand the opposite perspective.
Good point. Not that there is anything wrong with being gay.
Well assuming you don't pop a rod when doing a back mount. That'd be pretty gay.
Congrats on the job! Is the process to interview, get an offer, and accept typically this quick?
No. But I am considered a superstar for any school where I am interviewed only by Chinese people or integrated foreigners as opposed to dipshit foreigners. A decade in China, only 1 broken contract, 3 years at each other job, top 0.x% Chinese language skills, UK PGCEi, very clearly demonstrated knowledge of the exam material you are teaching exactly as it appears on the exam papers, and master's in the field you teach is like a unicorn. Plus I have a crazy track record of high ranking HK/UK G5 university matriculations for econ students and that matters a lot.
Dipshit foreigners will consider irrelevant bullshit like "yeah, but how is he on think/pair/share and inverted classrom pedagogy!?" or 'but does he have direct uk teaching experience??". There's almost none working at my new school and afaik very few mainland staff; overwhelming majority are hk citizens.
As much as I dislike the low class peasant Chinese, and often times they still ended up rich, I dislike dipshit foreigners way more. UK sends by far the most dipshit foreigners. Third world SEA/Curryland/Other asia/Africa/middle east sends basically 0 dipshit foreigners. My previous school only had 3 anglo foreigners and the rest were elites from the developing world who are always a pleasure to work with and don't have the arrogance and colonial attitude of a dipshit foreigner.
Lighter lower workout today
Bayesian curls: 11.75kgx22, 11, 10
pushdowns: 3 sets
Seated ham curl: 77.5kgx12, 63.75kgx11, 10 oof, humbling
Paused SLDL: 110kgx15 ezier than last sesh despite higher soreness coming in
hack squat: 1ppsx12x3 no, it still doesn't feel good
leg press: 3ppsx15x2 god damn it feels good.
Any externally stabilized squat continues to feel bad. I felt a lot of tension on my knee joint, a little bit of tension in my glutes and hams, and no tension in my quadriceps. Hack squats are out.
Trainer showed me a really cool setup for RFESS that I can use next sesh. Skipped leg extensions because I did the hacks.
Leg press is just the king, man. My quads are good b/c I leg pressed a lot and i need to continue with this exercise always. RFESS are more glutes+hams focused and just auxillary quads. Leg press is where the real work gets done. With my new setup, it's now realistic for me to train both each week and I'm super happy about that. Doing two sets of RDLs just sucks because the rest time ends up being so long and then after the 2nd working set i'm so gassed I can't realistically keep training. So just do 1 working set each session and then go on to a more quad or glute focused lift.
Air fryer shrimp is awesome. I got some shitty overprice sam's club shrimp but it still tastes great in air fryer. Can cook straight from frozen which is ultra convenient. I bought about 2.5kg of frozen 26/30 shrimp and it should be here on Monday/Tuesday. It comes in 500g bags so I figure I can air fry up two of those in the morning with cumin, chili pepper, lime, garlic, salt then eat it with wild rice, black beans, and guac to please my barely-any-mestizo non-hispanic black colombian genes.
