Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
the goal of marxism is to substitute the dominant class in capitalist society with a clerical class Marxists represent. like most ideologies, it's about taking power for the people promoting that ideology.cultural Marxism is applying Marxist oppressor-oppressed narrative not to economic class, but to ethnical/gender/sexual preference identities.classic Marxism seeks to get powe
By your definition social marxism is how you get mongidig to call white men an oppressed class
I knew you guys were always projecting but this is starting to get out of hand
Cultural Marxism was drummed up in deep white nationalist / anti semitic corners of the internet in the early 2000s
A tool for "low t low social standing" (things right wingers claim to hate) white guys to rationalize their perceived lack of social significance
This continues to be its main use today though where I will admit that not everyone who parrots cultural marxism is low t and low social standing, they are all racist weirdos who fantasize about curb stomping people they perceive as lower than them
Only briefly skimmed the thread but you guys are still whining over CN's comments? Is it that time of the month for you guys or something? jfc, your vaginas are so sensitive?
This is why I say a unifying national identity, which transcends smaller group identities, is mandatory.Even then, a unifying national identity is only a temporary solution. The universal self is the final group identity. It’s the only group identity which can break the grip of group identity. Yet, it counterintuitively requires this hop of ever larger group identities in order
There will always be short term, group identity battles, but reality should always be the opponent in the macro. This progression of identity I’m talking about is what it looks like for the person who understands this.
mongidig truly is one of the worst posters I have ever seen. As I said before, I think one of the main problems is that he simply isn't very smart. I guess that explains why his trolling is not nearly as funny as he imagines it to be.
At the same time he is great, because he shows what MAGA actually is.
There are MAGAs who are better at wits and playing it cool, better at flamebaiting people into becoming too angry, and far better at whataboutisms. With those posting styles, MAGA as an ideology becomes less visible.
With Mongidig's posting style, the actual MAGA opinions, ideology and reasoning is on display. And it is very, very silly.
By your definition social marxism is how you get mongidig to call white men an oppressed class
I knew you guys were always projecting but this is starting to get out of hand
MAGA has marxist components yes, i said that before several times. "the poor oppressed white men" is cultural marxism.
Tucker Carlson and Bannon have explicit marxist thought processes and i always said that. Trump is different, he rarely refers to identity politics in the intersectional sense.
In fact you can find the worst MAGA tendencies to be all based on marxism, as you would expect for worst tendencies in general, as marxism is by far the worst political framework ever devised by humanity (yes even a lot worse than theocracy).
And the tariffs charade when discussing trade deficits as oppression is again applying marxist thought processes, looking at a dynamic, identifying oppressor and oppressed, and so on. For Trump it's because of outdated, pre fiat-money-not-backed-by-gold reasoning. For others it's part and parcel of the cultural marxism of MAGA.
In some sense generalizing a bit marxism is the cult of 0-sum thought in politics.
the goal of marxism is to substitute the dominant class in capitalist society with a clerical class Marxists represent. like most ideologies, it's about taking power for the people promoting that ideology.
That's hypocrisy and Bolshevism, not Marxism. It's a lot like how in practice supposed libertarians like Musk, Milei, and you are actually fascists.
Death is the worst outcome of an encounter with a bear. It is not the worst outcome of an encounter with a man. That's what lots of people ignore in these discussions.
Disclaimer- I have not read or vetted other tweets from this account. This is not an endorsement of their entire twitter history or any future tweets. Sorry for your time but people are incredibly stupid, conspiratorial, and delusional
You don't have to include a disclaimer. Everyone knows that you simply don't care who your sources are and that you can't be arsed to figure out whether they are white nationalists, Nazis, UFO cultists, flat earthers, or whatever.
its not like the sentiment of that tweet isnt repeated ad nauseam by liberals and Dem partisans and the Dem party itself. its very much a bipartisan position.
That's hypocrisy and Bolshevism, not Marxism. It's a lot like how in practice supposed libertarians like Musk, Milei, and you are actually fascists.
Cultural Marxism is just the nazi ideology of cultural Bolshevism which is why I am so confident to make the claims I do about the people who are fanatical about the ideology
It’s literally just anti semitism that’s been repackaged as white nationalism
At the same time he is great, because he shows what MAGA actually is.There are MAGAs who are better at wits and playing it cool, better at flamebaiting people into becoming too angry, and far better at whataboutisms. With those posting styles, MAGA as an ideology becomes less visible. With Mongidig's posting style, the actual MAGA opinions, ideology and reasoning is on display.
So, is he the best smelling or worst smelling turd in the bunch? I'm confused.
Cultural Marxism is just the nazi ideology of cultural Bolshevism which is why I am so confident to make the claims I do about the people who are fanatical about the ideology
It’s literally just anti semitism that’s been repackaged as white nationalism
Holy moly. Looking this up "cultural Bolshevism" was the subject of a chapter in Mein Kampf.
"Cultural Marxism" is just word salad, WTF is that even supposed to mean? Modern technology will create class struggle over the means of producing culture? It's all just Fon News gibberish that people parrot out.
"Cultural Marxism" is just word salad, WTF is that even supposed to mean? Modern technology will create class struggle over the means of producing culture? It's all just Fon News gibberish that people parrot out.
Coordi is right. The term got picked up by Fox News et al, but early pioneers were Lyndon LaRouche and Anders Brevik.
So Luciom, JV and such are cribbing Mein Kampf in here.
Coordi is right. The term got picked up by Fox News et al, but early pioneers were Lyndon LaRouche and Anders Brevik.
RIP Lyndon LaRouche
He was the last one left of the entertaining and unique right-wing crank. Now they all just mainline Fox News; that's never gonna be the path towards believing the Queen of England is the world's biggest drug trafficker on Earth.
I doubt they even know who Camilla is
