Caution: what does, "all of it" mean?

How many using words and actions that are clear so you don't create stupid issues like this?

It sounds like the time I was in the 9 seat in a straddle pot (1/3/6), and when it folded to me in MP I tossed in a $25 chip and said, "The full green."

The dealer turned to me and said, "WHAT?...The full green?"

"Yeah, It's not a call. The full green. All twenty-five of it."

The dealer admonished me but reluctantly allowed the raise, and people joked about it for the next few orbits.

There will always be new situations that have to get ruled on. I have been playing at casinos for over 18 years now and new stuff comes up every now and then.

Its good to learn that saying "all of it" with chips in your hand can be interpreted as not going all in. Not that I have ever or would ever say "all of it...".

Its good to know because now if somebody does it, I will realize it could be ruled not all in if they have chips in their hand. And by asking before I say "call" or put chips in I can avoid misunderstanding the situation. If I want to jam I will be able to after the ruling. And also it may be a way of stopping an angle by somebody who was trying to get a fold by making me think that they were going all in when in reality they are just going to be held to the chips in their hand.

For the record now when somebody says "all in" I always ask for a count before I call. One time I asked the dealer if the player was all in and the dealer said yes so I said "call" and moved my chips forward. And then the player denied saying all in and his buddy across the table said "he no say nothing" and the Floor ended up ruling he was not all in (without asking any of the players if they had heard him say "all in").

I would always avoid using nonstandard or regional terms as they add confusion.

All english rule sets recognize “all in” as a standard wager.

No english rule sets recognize “all of it” as a standard wager.

Personally I would have to know as a floor whether you had made a forward motion with chips before verbalizing “all of it”. If you had, I would agree with the dealer to keep it to what was in your hand, and if you hadn’t, I probably would let the all in stand.

Your betting style added to the confusion in this situation, imo.

I agree that non-standard terms add a possibility of confusion, so I'm going to make an effort to break myself of that phrase. I've used it for years and it was never a problem, but just that subtle difference of grabbing chips first introduced ambiguity which isn't going to work in my favor.

But please explain your comment on betting style.

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Presumably he means grabbing a stack of chips, moving forward with them, and verbally saying all in (or trying to, anyway). Your verbal and physical actions don't match. When it causes confusion, as a floor I am more likely to rule against you.

Ok, got it.

Just to be clear, my style is to push a stack in **after** saying "all of it". A glitch in the matrix got my timing off.

I now see l used ambiguous words and combined them with a confusing action.

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Just say "All In" (and usually I suspect "All Of It" works.

Don't toss in a single chip. Don't slide out a stack (unless that is all your chips). Simply don't have a conflict between verbal and physical action.

Yes some places, some dealers will tell you you need to put in a chip. Their house, there rules so follow. But not until they tell you that you must.

All the places I routinely play, at least a single chip is required, so it's become a habit. I honestly don't know Horseshoe's policy. I should change my habit to waiting to get told.

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That's what I do after saying "all in". I do it so there will be no doubt I have gone all in for anyone who didn't hear me but can see that all my chips have been moved forward. Now if I have too many stacks to do that I just move out the stacks of the highest denomination chips.

Sometime when it seems ok, ask a floor why. The most common response I bet would be ‘for the cameras’. Then ask the follow up, why should I confuse the video. Since camera can’t hear me, putting in one chip will look like I bet one chip on the camera.

Today when dealing a tournament, there were a couple of limpers and action got around to the big blind and he says "OK. Let's go." and then sits there looking at the rest of the table.

I pause for a couple of seconds. I think he intends to check his option (sort of a "Let's see the flop"), but it is unclear because there was no hand motion. I wait a bit longer, he never moves, so I say "I think that is a check" and start to bring in all of the bets. He stops me and says he hasn't acted yet and he wants to raise.

I stop and put all of the bets back in front of the respective players.

On of the limpers, gets mad and said he indicated a check.

I don't even hesitate, I call the floor immediately and let him figure it out. When the floor comes over I verbally explain what happened (I pretty much reiterate my first two paragraphs of this post).

The big blind then jumps in and says when he said "Let's go." he meant it like "Here we go, here is going to be some action." He was just hesitating trying to decide on how much to raise.

The floor let the big blind have his action, but it was just all unnecessary. He wasn't clear and it caused a problem.

It is no different than a few years ago when people used to bet by calling out sports figures numbers. It just causes confusion and wasn't even cool.

Do you also like to sit in seat 1 and seat 9 with your arms way out so that it causes the dealer to have to deal over you and make misdeals?