KK vs. tilted nit
KK vs. tilted nit
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KK vs. tilted nit

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14 April 2025 at 12:08 AM
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ive folded KK once in my life pre, to an 85 year old guy's 4bet AI. i showed KK and he didnt show so i assume it was AA.


I dont understand why you made a thread in a strategy forum asking if we should fold KK pre to a tilted nit, when everyone gives you advice to not fold. You make a big reveal and tell everyone that they’re wrong and you were right. Like what was the point? Lol


by Joe-exotic69 m

I dont understand why you made a thread in a strategy forum asking if we should fold KK pre to a tilted nit, when everyone gives you advice to not fold. You make a big reveal and tell everyone that they’re wrong and you were right. Like what was the point? Lol

Because no one has said why it's a super easy snap call. It's like "never fold KK preflop" is something everyone learned as beginners, but no one can actually explain why it should hold in typical, low limit games against middle-age, nitty randos.

It's like when people limp with 44, get oversetted, and then say, "Nope. Nothing I could do. It was a cooler."

If people want to say, "In my experience, randos in my cardroom are 5-betting with way more than AA/KK, " I'd say "it seems unbelievable to me, but OK, I guess we really are talking about different populations."

However, some people are too lazy to do anything other than ape something they read in a book 15 years go.


no one offered any foray into why calling might still be the right choice? damn this place has fallen off.


Let's see, why is it a super easy snap call? Well, you have the second best hand possible pre-flop, it's 100bb, and your villain is TILTED! (Actually that last part doesn't matter, but you made it known as part of your "strat" post, so it actually matters a lot.)


by bb_love m

no one offered any foray into why calling might still be the right choice? damn this place has fallen off.

You should stick with math rather than passive-aggression. You're much better at the former than the latter.


by Javanewt m

Let's see, why is it a super easy snap call? Well, you have the second best hand possible pre-flop, it's 100bb, and your villain is TILTED! (Actually that last part doesn't matter, but you made it known as part of your "strat" post, so it actually matters a lot.)

You didn't actually read the original post carefully, did you?


We all did.


Over the weekend, I snapshoved QQ on a T-high flop vs. someone I thought was tilty (I tilted him when I stacked him with flopped middle set vs. top-and-bottom).

He had TT.

Just because they're tilty doesn't mean they don't have it.

(That said, I'm not folding 100 BB deep, but I might have called and folded that flop.)


So it doesn't matter, but it matters a lot?

And the Villain is TILTED, although just in emotion and not in behavior--bb love really felt thrown by this one.

It's all very confusing, isn't it?


Very! Except for the fact that you folded KK. That is clear.


So, AF, let me ask you a question: why did you post this hand?


by Always Fondling m

I've played low-limit all over the country in the past year, and I saw few to no randos ripping AKo 100bb deep.

Play in Texas. It's even sillier than you can imagine.

Edit: Bring a healthy risk of ruin acceptance.


by marchron m

...Just because they're tilty doesn't mean they don't have it.

Words to live by, there.


by Always Fondling m

You should stick with math rather than passive-aggression. You're much better at the former than the latter.

damn man, for a guy who wants to lob shots at everyone with insinuations in your own comments, you really get shook the times it comes back at ya huh?

thank you for the compliments though, i'll take the good at math over good at passive aggressive all day 😀


by bb_love m

damn man, for a guy who wants to lob shots at everyone with insinuations in your own comments, you really get shook the times it comes back at ya huh?

I can handle criticism, and I can handle people disagreeing with my population reads.

However, I get salty when people deliberately misstate my positions in a bad faith attempt to score points.


by Always Fondling m

I can handle criticism, and I can handle people disagreeing with my population reads.

However, I get salty when people deliberately misstate my positions in a bad faith attempt to score points.

please show me where this is the case or i can just quote post my responses which i think supplied a comprehensive case for not just auto mucking KK/offered a fairly solid argument as to why calling might be a best choice - choose your own adventure.

i dont think i need anyone to say "you're right" but I do get salty when people deliberately post bad faith attempts to diminish or dismiss prior responses that dont align with their action/conclusion to score 'points' (whatever the **** that means.)


All I know is this.

If I were at your table and I saw you fold KK to this action, and bring this attention to yourself, I'd never willingly play with you again. Honestly I'd avoid playing with you at all costs.

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