1/2 high paired wet board vs LAG maniac
1/2 NLHE 8 handed.
We are 1h into session. Table is a mix of loose and tight players with two LAG maniacs, one is involved in the hand. MP is 30s Asian guy playing straightforward tight, didn’t see him getting out of line. V on LJ is one of the maniacs playing 50%+ of the hands aggressively. 30s white guy who seem to be enjoying himself at the table while drinking his beer. He won a hand firing with air on three streets and showed his bluff when the opponent folded on the river. For this hand Hero is the effective stack with £200.
Hero sees AsQc on button
MP raises to £8, LJ calls, Hero raises to £35, MP folds, LJ calls
Flop Ks Tc Kh (£81)
LJ checks, Hero bets £40, LJ calls
Turn Qs (£161)
LJ checks, Hero checks (?)
River Td (£161)
LJ bets £65, Hero?
6 Replies
In a 3-bet pot where I'm the aggressor vs. a LAG and the flop comes KKTr, I'm either range betting small (£20) or checking behind, especially with a hand with equity that would hate to be checkraised.
Given your reads on him and the fact you checked behind the turn, I'm likely calling this <1/2psb on the river.
If villain is playing aggro, then betting otf might not be as great as theory would suggest.
As played, calling.
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In a 3-bet pot where I'm the aggressor vs. a LAG and the flop comes KKTr, I'm either range betting small (£20) or checking behind, especially with a hand with equity that would hate to be checkraised.
Given your reads on him and the fact you checked behind the turn, I'm likely calling this <1/2psb on the river.
^This.
But I'm not liking it. Really not liking not betting turn. Other V wasn't getting OOL, and wondering if card removal meant their MP open/fold range had some Broadway in it. Which means aggro V2 is less likely to have it.
If V2 has a K despite this, w/e. Not folding river with Kings up for <40%. I am a calling station tho, and I'm sorry you lost.
You had 135 back on a turn pot of 161. If you believed V was K-heavy, and you're drawing...I'm "protecting my checking range on flop". When the Q turn hits, I guess try to sell AJ. Evidently, I'm bad at predicting V ranges, but w/e call now. Do you really think you'll get a fold if you shove?
Thanks everyone for the responses.
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I tanked and ended up folding. Turn made AJ (unlikely) or J9 winning hands, river means Tx beats us now. However post session I thought to myself I should have called on 3.5:1 odds, especially against this type of V. Really got MUBSy vs these LAG maniacs. Need to adapt and play less scared. He mucked his cards this time but he'd open show another two bluffs later in the session - one with J4o on a A85r flop - so he was really that junky.
But I'm not liking it. Really not liking not betting turn. Other V wasn't getting OOL, and wondering if card removal meant their MP open/fold range had some Broadway in it. Which means aggro V2 is less likely to have it.If V2 has a K despite this, w/e. Not folding river with Kings up for <40%. I am a calling station tho, and I'm sorry you lost.You had 135 back on a turn pot
Was that question for me? I wasn't the OP here. Wasn't suggesting a shove.
Don't get me wrong. I don't love any of our options on any street, on this board, in a 3B pot. But hero made it more complicated than it needed to be, by c-betting too large on flop, and then checking back turn, potentially inducing a LAG opponent to stab river.
It's 65 into 161. If I'm doing the math right, we only need to good about 22% of the time, and if V is truly LAG, meaning likely to over-bluff in this spot, I think we have to call.
If V shows us a better hand, so be it. Agree with you that our other opponent may have some Broadway combos in his open-fold range pre, so all the more reason to call off with AQ here.
