Bodybuilding Classic Physique Division Offseason log

Bodybuilding Classic Physique Division Offseason log

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16 July 2022 at 04:27 PM
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CPAP probably a good plan finally too... it's definitely not going to hurt and at worst will be a waste of 600-800 usd.


Guy,

You're right. Posting before my coffee again.

One other example I thought of was POE(2) , which is really just a gateway drug to teaching your kid about Excel and optimizations. Explain how some builds are better, teach your kid how to use all the useful features of excel, then feel bad you never taught them to use GOALSEEK when they get asked that by some jackoff in a job interview 10 years later.

Sleepies are pretty personal. One of the nice things of being in a LTR is that your partner can tell you if you have a sleep disorder.


by GuyThatGoesToDaGym

stay away, do not watch

Thanks for making me watch this, 9/10
10:50 made me laugh
14:30-15:00 is a narrow view/commentary of an issue and in my opinion, just wrong.
Outside of that, it was mostly an entertaining lesson in Macroeconomics.


by NotThremp

Guy,You're right. Posting before my coffee again.One other example I thought of was POE(2) , which is really just a gateway drug to teaching your kid about Excel and optimizations. Explain how some builds are better, teach your kid how to use all the useful features of excel, then feel bad you never taught them to use GOALSEEK when they get asked that by some jackoff in a job i

I found an entertaining Excel trick the other day. VBA actually allows pointers, so one can faff about with low level memory manipulation to inject custom machine code into other processes. (Probably not a good interview question, though. The main use I found was password management for forgetful people.)


by mindflayer

Thanks for making me watch this, 9/10
10:50 made me laugh
14:30-15:00 is a narrow view/commentary of an issue and in my opinion, just wrong.
Outside of that, it was mostly an entertaining lesson in Macroeconomics.

I agree, frankly. 14:30-15:00 is pretty stupid.


there was a lot of stupid stuff included but i liked the general premise


Overhauling back training. After discussing with friends and re-watching some chris bumstead contest prep training videos, I've decided one can handle a very large amount of volume for back if you do mostly isolation exercises which are neither as stimulating overall nor as fatiguing as more hardcore lifts, but the stimulus they do provide is more specific and targetted. He was doing something like 28-32 sets of "back" split across two sessions, but when you really break it down it's like 14 sets for lats, 8 sets for upper back, some for rear delts/teres/lower traps etc

I wish we lived in a world where one could get an amazing back for bodybuilding competitions just using barbell rows and chinups, and actually a minority of people can. I am not in that minority so I gotta do it the bodybuilder way. If you want an example of somebody who took the "just focus on compound lifts for back, bro" philosophy way too far into his career, look at Jared Feather (I'm not picking on him, he'd agree his back is a weak point). Meanwhile Anton Ratushnyi does all the isolation with fancy angles and different grips and tons of different machine movements with basically 0 hardcore compound lifts and he has amazing and complete back development. Same with Ryan Terry, Erin Banks, Ali Bilal, Terrence Ruffin... the list goes on and on. Cbum is a great example because prior to linking up with Hany Rambod he trained way more hardcore compounds for back, and when he switched to more machines and isolation he brought up his back in a major way when it had previously been his main weak point.

I can get an amazing chest doing just a free weight db/bb press and a machine fly motion, and not everyone can. So be grateful.

NG pulldowns with medium grip using the gym pin attachment: 80kgx13, 60kgx12, 13
flat db press: 35kgx15, 12, 10
machine chest supported selectorized rows: 47kgx21, 15, 13
single arm cable rows: 27.5kgx12, 20kgx12, 10
pullovers: 12.5kgx15-20x3
flies: 3 sets

cable curls: 3 sets
db skullcrushers//delt raises: 10kgx31, 7.5kgx30, 2 more sets to failure

Black beans GOAT carb source for a dieting bodybuilder omg why wasn't I eating this before... doubles as a protein source, tons of fibre and micronutrition, high satiety for the calories, and tastes delicious and appeals to my "CURSED MESTIZO (I have functionally almost no mestizo genetics and we're almost entirely west african on that side genetically) GENETICS"

I'll start at around 24 sets for back in a deficit but 3 of those are pullovers...12 each session.


Not saying any of my readers should train back this way; basically all of you would do fine on g2g chins and just increasing the weight you barbell row and deadlift.


There are lots of proper western style bodybuilding gyms in Shenzhen and i'm very excited to check them out and use their exhaustive array of different equipment for back and legs. Arms, chest, and delts seem to respond to a few key lifts and don't need a lot of variety/angles/grips/fps


all that back training autism aside, i think fitting in underhand barbell rows on one of the sessions as 2nd or third lift to where I don't have to go super heavy is totally reasonable as nothing hits the lower lats quite like a paused underhand barbell row with light weights and a good contraction/feel/squeeze. Hurking up a double overhand strapped row no good or that abomination of a movement they call the pendlay row are no good, those are deadlift assistance not bodybuilding lifts.


by GuyThatGoesToDaGym

Black beans GOAT carb source for a dieting bodybuilder omg why wasn't I eating this before... doubles as a protein source, tons of fibre and micronutrition, high satiety for the calories, and tastes delicious and appeals to my "CURSED MESTIZO (I have functionally almost no mestizo genetics and we're almost entirely west african on that side genetically) GENETICS"

I've got a Cuban-style black bean recipe that I've been making to rave reviews for over a decade that I can send you if you want; I randomly found it in the comments section of a Serious Eats Cuban recipe.


Beans certainly better than white rice, that's fosho.

Lolwhiterice, might as well replace it with fortified lemonade. Same thing.


by loco

Beans certainly better than white rice, that's fosho.

Lolwhiterice, might as well replace it with fortified lemonade. Same thing.

Have you ever considered this is why you've never been as strong as me? A person who routinely gets mocked for being weak? (Barring that vegan guy's weird fantasy about me. That was utterly insane.)

Chicommies eat shit tons of white rice and they routinely rape folks at WLing. Maybe its your dark skinned genetics (which is also a known heritable factor in intelligence) that is preventing your from accepting this reality.

Guy,

Weird. You're admitting a late stage pro beauty pageant competitor shouldn't train like a normie. Genuinely wild. You're making some real progress. Soon we'll get you to admit SS if totally fine for someone who has never lifted a barbell at age 17 and is just trying to figure shit out.


Oh really, you deadlifted 375, squatted 3 wheels, and benched 285 at 162? Tellmemore.jpeg

We have gone over this a million times. Rice has less nutrition than feces. It's poor people food. Bodybuilders and Chinese Oly lifters are poor people.

If we replaced all of Evokens white rice consumption with lemonade, he would look exactly the same. Rice is rock bottom in micronutrients, pretty much lemonade. And even enriched, it's really awful.

No normal American should be consuming any of it because they are fat already. If you thin like Chinese because you move a lot or you really poor, then go ahead and keep consuming it. I approve in that case.


by loco

Oh really, you deadlifted 375, squatted 3 wheels, and benched 285 at 162? Tellmemore.jpegWe have gone over this a million times. Rice has less nutrition than feces. It's poor people food. Bodybuilders and Chinese Oly lifters are poor people. If we replaced all of Evokens white rice consumption with lemonade, he would look exactly the same. Rice is rock bottom in mic

I Dled 400 when I was in my early 20s bro. I've literally worked out with multiple Olympic medalists who all seem to think my shit is pretty solid for a dude who doesn't work out full time. My FS converts (at a .75 ratio) to around 384lbs as a LBBS. At at 165-180lbs lifter that is quite solid. Actually fuck that. It is quite solid if you're jabba the fucking hutt. This is exactly what I'm talking about. You've never accomplished what I have. But you wanna lie and handwave away some shit that many people who are VASTLY more accomplished than you think is "pretty okay". I've literally wokred out with medalists in strength training. Literally no one has given the derision or scorn that some jelly dick internet blowhard has.

You're also poorer than me and vastly less successful. But keep on that fucking high horse. Your copium is all you got. Fuck yourself.


I did that at age 40 bro. Have you ever heard of age graded? And there is probably still video around.

I rest my case. And make sure to bodyweight accordingly. I have the Pic too of my physique when I did those things. Nood off for the tiebreaker. Crickets.

I guess my picture is partially nood so I can't upload. We move on, you guys seen it. I look like robriches and athleanX had a child).

Spoiler
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There you go bro (162 pounds, 100% natty at age 40). And just in case people think I am living in the past, current nood off vs thremp is always available til i die. I will be the first to applaud.

This reminds of when Thremp says he use to run faster than me in high school than when I was 44. Lol.


One guy I would not fack around with about all this health, strength, fitness stuff is feel wrath. Facking recent world class rower and a very good physique for his age.

But Thremp?!!! Lol. DYEL alert.


grunch for now but agree on white rice. That's why you see white rice and cream of rice in my diet with extremely low frequency while cutting. More autism on this later

May as well pivot toward fairly frequent updates bc honestly wgaf about the results of the show, I may as well share documentation of the process for your entertainment.












Changed back double bicep to feet even rather than staggered. I feel way better posing it this way and will continue this unorthodox style henceforth.

17/20 weeks out as of tomorrow. BW holding steady at 94.5kg morning. Retatrutide still 0.5mg, but appetite suppressive doses might start if I feel like I need it. We're on schedule now and coming down too fast is bad so for now just being used as a superior alternative to metformin/berberine.


I wish I could strip to underwear/trunks but trainers find this deeply threatening. Can you imagine working in a gym full time as a monolingual Chinese in Guangdong who grew up with tons of ESL resources in school, yet failed to acquire english, with a bachelors or lower and an IQ no higher than maybe 105 and some guy who has a master's degree, is bilingual and didn't start your language seriously until age 28, and works a high status cognitively focused job AND he comes in and completely mogs you physically despite being unable to give singular focus to the gym like you can with your lifestyle as a trainer? And god knows you've been on gear since day 1 and he probably actually takes much less gear than you yet still looks infinitely better than you while his bloodwork even mogs yours too. I'd be deeply threatened too and want him to reveal as little of his physique as possible.

The gap is even bigger than between me and that Baltimore Raven's guy who studied math phd full time while playing and eventually left the NFL to become a full time prof. Just life-mogged in every way. But unlike these moron trainer guys with small dicked energy, I'd celebrate that guy's accomplishments rather than feel like I've lost face because of how much better he's done at the game of life than me.

I stripped down once back during the fall/winter minicut, female trainers and patrons of both genders gather around for unsolicited photos interrupting whatever they were doing. People come up after I'm done posing and congratulate me/compliment me. Singular male trainer comes up and say "uh..... you can't do that, there were many complaints (false). This is not that kind of gym. Sorry!"

John Cameron Urschel Jr

lol he's 2 years younger than me too... mogger... hero... warrior/philosopher...


Man what if young boys had somebody like that as a role model or aspirational figure instead of interchangeable red pill NPC alpha males who think life is all about material possessions, cars, game, exhibiting anti-social behaviour to appear more alpha and be somehow more attractive to the opposite sex (????), and having as many women as possible?


White rice may be shiet, but I 've got it way ahead of brown rice.

If you're gonna eat rice, might as well at least taste good.


Potatoes are the GOAT cutting food. So filling and actually have some nutrients. Brown rice is gross, white rice is meh, cilantro lime rice is decent


Your physique looks great in that light. Looking really good man.


loco,

Congrats on being a fat fuck in your 20s. Strength and long distance cardio tarding peak in their late 30s. So I'm unsure what you're rambling about with age grading. FWIW comparing you to my 15 year old half season of cross country was intended as an insult.

I'm not sure how we'd ever get to a tiebreaker since your accomplishments are rather pathetic. You have some genuinely misguided views and post in this ridiculous acerbic style (as I should be familiar with, well the acerbic part). You ramble about your mileage, but would be considered a low mileage casual runner by anyone with passing familiarity with the subject. I know triathletes who put in more mileage than you in the offseason than you average. What exactly was your mileage cap? 40? https://www.womensrunning.com/training/r... This is closer to your training plan than any real runner.

This doesn't even touch on the fact I was a hobbyist WLer and don't bother to bring up my Olytard lifts, which were clearly hobbyist level (lol barely snatching BW), are pretty clearly in the "good" category. Again, literally the only place on the planet where this scorn happens in on the internet where people with no passing familiarity with the subject throw this nonsense out.

All,

Boiled potatoes with salt are clearly the best dieting food. Nothing can make you feel like a post-Colombian exchange serf like a boiled potato. Disgusting. But insanely filling. Honestly don't know why we ended up with "bread and water" as the archetype for starvation level diets when potato is so much more satiating and has higher nutrition. I'd task any man to sit down and see whether bread or potato fills you up faster. Widespread in the 1800s among the poors and still a major staple in the Post-Soviet/Slav regions.

Guy,

Is that a genuine level of confusion on why a bunch of dudes might find it mildly threatening to see your rock a dong thong flopping your BBC around and flexing your muscles? While I do consider myself extremely empathetic, this is some 80 IQ levels of empathy. Imagine if one of the dudes had a little ghey in him and saw you flexing your glutes in the mirror and popped a rod, then it turned out to be smaller than your floppy. His shame and embarrassment would be immense. Especially in China where social perception is much more highly valued than in the West.

Think of the smol pp people pls.


Thremp, I'm around a lot of bodybuilders both in person and online. I've never met anyone who sexualized this sport/pageant more than you do. This says something about you.

I'm with you on potatos, but I bake over boil b/c ???. I should probably boil.

Now, you'll be happy to know I'm very much a shower over a grower and my grown size is exactly average for a Colombian male, which is yeah kinda godzilla sized in China, but I assure you it had much more to do with a particular trainer rightfully ashamed of his lack of muscular development and overall fitness despite a lifestyle where he has both the incentive and the means to optimize these things. The jacked trainers/women/patrons don't mind, just the dyel trainer struggling for business.

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