Bubble Spot
About to be on the bubble, as the floor has already given the 'hold up after this hand', but not hand/hand yet. So, basically no chance you will cash if you bust...
Seniors $500 Wynn. Hero has 17BBs, average stack about 30BBs. UTG, very big stack limps. Another medium stack limps +1. Fold to Kathy Liebert on the button who makes it 7BBs. Folds to heron in BB. What's our range here. I am not putting 7BB of my 17BB to fold, so assume I am jam or fold.
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I have never thought this way but on the bubble I would consider just calling here OOP with AK/AQ and if we improve jam the flop and fold if we don't.
I would consider jamming JJ+ and not sure what I would do with TT/99. But the thing is in general when people raise after limpers they typically have stronger ranges than just ordinary pre-flop raises so here I guess I am folding 66-TT and jamming JJ+. Also, Liebert's raise sizing is very large and looks a lot like JJ type hands. Could be AK as well wanting folds.
It would be very, very tight. Especially since, we are putting in BB before the H4H, and I'd have to assume there are some very short stacks out there. In these live tournaments, we never have the ability to know everyone's chip stacks, so we need to do some approximation. I think we can likely fold to the money, so we have huge ICM pressure. I assume Kathy covers us substantially such that she's committed versus our shove. My range is QQ+. (I'd be dying here with JJ or AKs).
Jamming QQ+, folding everything else and never telling anyone about AK or JJ
It would be very, very tight. Especially since, we are putting in BB before the H4H, and I'd have to assume there are some very short stacks out there. In these live tournaments, we never have the ability to know everyone's chip stacks, so we need to do some approximation. I think we can likely fold to the money, so we have huge ICM pressure. I assume Kathy covers us substa
Yes, Kathy had 30-40 BBs.
Thanks for the answers. I had an 'easy' fold with 88, but frustrating since the bubble burst on the next hand, and I would have won a huge pot if I wasn't on the bubble (I think 88 is a jam for chip ev).
I probably would have gone for it with JJ, AK since I did have decent stack, and a full double puts me in reasonable shape for a deep run, as compared to a much larger field where the bubble is farther away from the FT.
Kathy has gone back to grinding like $500 tournaments for the last 10 years or so.
Her raise to 7xBB to 2 limpers is sort of strange with everyone shortish stacked late in a tournament. She could be risking a lot for a steal, but it looks sort of like a mid pp or big ace. It doesn't look like AA/KK.
I don't see how shoving 88 for 17xBB and always being called could be significantly cEV+. She probably has a higher pp more than a lower one or like Axs or a low suited connector.
I wouldn't be all that concerned about the bubble, but I would probably shove JJ+/AK.
