All too common of a spot - line check
1/2 50-300 BI, Friday early evening.
H - 30 year old wg. Has won the last two immediate hands. Had the goods both times. Should have a solid/tight image. Covers
V1 - 50 year old wg. Watching tv/movies on iPad. As the night went on he was clearly the mark.
V2 - 40 year old wg. Mainly plays PLO, waiting for a seat. Non maniac plo player.
H covers. Both vs have about 300ish
Otth-
Button straddle, v1 in sb opens to 10, v2 calls, h 3 bets to 40 with Aqhh in Utg. All other folds. V1 and v2 both call
Flop (120ish)
Ts8s2c
X,x h hero bets 40
V1 folds, v2 calls
Turn (200ish)
Ts8s2c5d
V2 x (has about 210ish behind), h x
River (200ish)
Ts8s2c5d8h
V2 x, h?
Thoughts on all lines appreciated. Would you have folded if v2 bet turn?
7 Replies
Well played IMO. I would xb river and try to win against AJ or missed spades.
It is going to be very hard to get this player to fold a better hand than AQ high on the river.
Nothing changes OTT, I would bet in the 70ish range. If he calls the turn, I would check back this particular river and take my showdown value.
Flop is a check always. SPR is only like 2 here. We don't have room to triple as bluff, and we aren't too interested in in having a wide bluffing range 3 way in a 3bet pot anyways. Keep it simple here. You also have a bit of showdown and are IP. Check it back and see what develops.
We're up against two ranges which should be pretty tight. Just bet your high equity hands here, basically any hand you can safely get it in on the flop flop imo. So like AT+ and FDs. Maybe include the occasional bet/fold with some hands, but honestly wouldn't even bother. especially on this board.
Pre - With two people already in the pot and a lot of players left to act, I'd go larger pre. If we were deep I'd go up to $60 but given that were like 150bb, I think maybe $50 is about right. You want that size the SB will think "wow, that's big" and fold a lot.
Flop - I don't like the small bet at all. We whiffed this flop, and Vs have a ton of holdings that are going to continue to a small bet. We don't have room to triple barrel. So if we're going to bluff, I think we should start our bluff OTT.
Turn - Its a brick but we can't really barrel without being suicidal. A half pot bet is half our effective stack, if V shoves back, now what? Its a gross call and a gross fold. If we had checked the flop, and both Vs check a second time, we can now start a bluff. AP, we have to check back.
River - What would fold to us that we don't already beat? Any Tx is snapping us off, 8x is jamming, even a 5x or mid pp might get curious. Checking back and hoping to win sometimes is the best option. We beat most busted spade draws and all the busted SD.
Grunch:
PRE - seems fine.
FLOP - no reason to c-bet into two opponents with no pair and no draw. Just check back and see a turn.
TURN - good check back.
RIVER - think we can just check back again. Our hand has a sliver of showdown value, and we're probably not folding out many better hands with a bet.
def x back river bc you have showdown value you can beat the missed draws and one pair hands should look you up on this river, you could check the flop as well but i don't hate it against 2 players
Xb flop, bigger bet turn (since you've room to bet only one street, really, and make it stick.) Maybe 90-100 into 120.
Ap xb, and wp. Can't win them all.
