Ukraine-Russia War Take 2

Id be fairly shocked of David duke was on team israel but i honestly havent checked and dont want to. So he could be

heh, looks like I was wrong on that one. the other 2 I know for sure.

duke has basically amassed an army of people who have convinced themlves that the jews arent white and they are the ultimate threat to the white race. A distant second is they like to lynch some black folks because they are an annoyance. That is basically a century + engrained fact and what i have been literally told to my face mulitple of times.

Now those people are so ****ing dumb that anything ia possible but id surprised if another war in the ME suddenly changed all of that.

Duke has visited Iran though...for some reason.

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/repo...

So just totally get rid of people who aren't drunk on propaganda, on fairy tales about the evil Putin and his evil bad country? That would pretty much take out anybody who has common sense and any level of immunity to manipulation by war profiteers. An implication of what you are saying here is let's not just put existential dread in a country that could destroy us, and would destroy us if it felt we had checkmated them, but while we're at it let's go to war with common sense itself.

I'm starting to see what the problem is here. People who were taken in by propaganda would literally rather see the world blown up than admit they were wrong. Nuclear winters and nuclear wastelands are preferable to the world where you have to face it that you are an incredibly dumb sucker. Got it.

You were certain it was western propaganda that Russia was even going to invade Ukraine in the first place. It's not surprising you're still completely confused and wrong about this conflict.

didnt think Russia would invade bc it looked like it would be a very bad decision and they would get crushed by the far superior Western technology and society. thats how I was propagandized. didnt realize the Russian propaganda about themselves being stronger was actually correct.

and really, the reason Biden and the National Security Deep State was able to accurately predict the invasion was because they were desperately working to ensure it happened. they just didnt expect to get owned by the supposedly backward Russians.

It's always been an interesting topic to me, the regarding of Jews by white supremacists. There is a split among white supremacists with the majority hating Jews above all others and a growing minority who think he they are basically white and, what's more, many of them are racial realists like us so let's partner up.

To be clear, David Duke despises Jews. You could barely believe someone with so much hate for any group of people could maintain their biological system. However, he greatly admires the way that Israel has achieved an ethno state. That's what he wants but for whites. It's ironic, he hates Jews while also having to admit that the racist Jews are better at being racists than the white racists and it's not even close. And that probably makes him hate Jews even harder, because deep down he knows he can't beat them at anything, not even being racist.

David Duke hates Jews. He hates Israel because Jews live there and because he sees that Israelis have an outsized influence over our government. People like him were bleating about the ZOG, Zionist Occupied Government, before AIPAC became prominent and before our politicians were acting like Israel is more important than America, sacrificing our reputation, our money, our obligation to the law, our integrity and moral standing in order to aid Israel in committing atrocities on an ethnic basis. Now all those people who conspiratarded about ZOG before any approximation of it actually existed live in a state of perpetual paroxysm.

I haven't checked David Duke's opinions on Israel lately, but he's probably figured out that supporting Israel is a way to normalize hate, apartheid, and the kind of fascist ethno state he wants. So I think he is pro Israel as a model state and supports it's ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, but, of course, if he was king of a white Christian U.S. the first thing he would do is nuke Israel.

I make predictions. I'm good at it. I'm still wrong a lot. I was a little more familiar with the history and there were several scares about Russia invading but they never did, and it wasn't until some time after that we learned about some events which clearly influenced Russia's decision.

While I understand Russia's position and think outside of the fairy tale nonsense that emotionally hijacks your thinking on the matter, I'm still not sure Russia made the right decision. They may be getting their way, but it's been at a tremendous cost and how sustainable their gains are is an open question.

Nobody was ever arguing if it was a good decision for Russia to invade. People were talking about how it was obvious by that point that they would. You were too infected with with propaganda to see the plain truth.

wtf

He has been posting with his mask off for a long while.

He's using a form of reported speech to suggest that a 'growing minority' of white supremacists now regard Zionist Jews as white 'racial realists like us.' How he knows that I wouldn't care to speculate.

Things that make you go hmmmm...

Horseshoe gonna horseshoe. Bu they, at least he has an open mind the Russian invasion might have been incorrect. He of course is indifferent to the human cost, but is concnerned Russia may have given up too much.

Ironically, Iran (at least the govt historically) is one of the few nations outside the Western world that isn't an ethnostate. They actual pride themselves on being a diverse empire, and dont want to be referred to as Persia.

Anstisemitism would be the only thing someone like Duke and the Mullahs would even be aligned on.

or you guys can learn to read better. 57 had no problem parsing it but that shouldnt be a surprise.

he is wrong semantically anyway.

you cannot semantically be a white supremacist and consider any race anything but inferior to whites.

racial realism means acknowledging the fact that Ashkenazi Jews are objectively smarter than any other ethnic group in history.

and given being smarter is almost equivalent to be *better* these days, it's semantically impossible to be a white supremacist AND a race realist at the same time.

many if not most nations (especially large ones) outside the western world aren't ethnostates actually.

Mexico isn't, Indonesia isn't, Brasil isn't, Pakistan isn't , Argentina isn't, Malaysia isn't, India isn't.

a few tend to be (China, Turkey) but they are a minority.

Even Lybia would laugh at a claim they are a ethno state, with the terrible tribal infighting they have (even if genetically/culturally they are almost all the same).

Ashkenazi Supremacism itt

I really have no idea how you reached this conclusion, but I did a quick scan on his current opinions, and it appears to be the same story.

The guy is still a fan of Putin. He likes that he opposes the globalists, and that Russia is standing up against the "western moral decay of race mixing". Who knows if he is still visiting Iran to spread his word, but it looks like he's still participating in anti Israel protests as of late. He's mentioned that he respects North Korea for fighting against "race mixing and the globalist empire".... Its the still same stuff.

I guess you could argue that he is a little jealous of Israel, but it would make zero sense for him to support Israel's Palestinian genocide because he likely still sees Palestinians as another victim of a zionist imperialism - I know his followers absolutely believe that.

I think those are your Richard Spencer racists trying to align with nazis as an ally but there is too big of a gap. It was the only reason i popped into this convo to respond to vic when he grouped Duke with Spencer and some other guy. I'd venture a guess that your neo nazis want nothing to do with the alt rights expressing more tolerance towards Jews. Charlottsville pretty much illustrated that.

The hatred that someone like Duke and his followers have is too deeply rooted in their core to just start forgiving Jews for what exactly?

But everything lately has become so convoluted and whitewashed either through ignorance or some weird strategic overton window shift that maybe Duke and Co will be holding hands with the Jews against some new enemy in the near future. But I'm not going to be the one to think that.

If nato entire military (soldiers, materials, etc) was on the ground , you really believe Russia wouldn’t be crush ?
Obviously disregarding nuclear nukes of course ….