KK OOP in bloated pot

Bet the flop, generally shove the turn. Hope no one has trips or makes a straight or flush. You obviously want a bloated pot with KK. You need to do the betting after 3-betting.

If it was a single raised pot and the pot was not bloated, then I would generally x/c on this flop. With the bloated flop, just try to gii. I would look to shove the turn, because you don't want draws to see the river cheaply.

size?

I would go about half pot 120, which sets up about a 3/5 pot turn shove against one caller. Don't want to go real small on the wet board.

Want to shove the turn to charge draws, and also represent a semibluff with a draw.

This is not an overly wet board, especially since we block the upper end of potential straights.

I think that a 1/3 psb is fine on the flop.

Actually, if you go 80, there will be about 400 in the pot with 270 left HU. If you go 120, there will be about 480 in the pot with 230 left. You also have to decide whether to gii on 2 street or 3 streets. Because of the somewhat wet board, I would prefer not to be small twice and gii on 3 streets.

I think you pretty much have to jam right here you really don't want to see a run out and just take it down. If you aren't jamming here complete pot control and hope for the best.

That seems really bad, 350 into 240. I prefer gii in 2 bets. No reason to be that scared of a turn card. Most bad turn cards give you a high straight or flush draw.

I think that is fine as well, but I would rather just take it down instead of watch a bad run out begin or an Ax of spades get there with either another spade or a turned A.

That's why I don't like betting small and gii on the river. However, this is not such a dangerous board that I would overbet shove.

A spade on the turn actually gives you 10 outs if you are behind to x9s.

Oh I don't disagree with you I just also feel that getting it in early isn't so bad because it looks suspicious and would most likely induce a call of course there's a lot of things that beat you but you still have tons of outs. If you plan on gii going early could look weak to V and if we do just take it down also not the worst case scenario.

This is a great flop having the Ks. Bet 100 flop and shove all turns. Easy game.

Grunch:

PRE - I'd 3B larger. At least $90, if not $100-$110.

It's not a tragedy to take down the pot pre-flop, avoid rake, and add 15bb's to our stack without a fight. If we get action, we want the pot to be as large as possible, but also prefer to get this heads up.

FLOP - I'd just check from OOP. If either V stabs at this, they'll likely telegraph their hand strength through their bet sizing. With the Ks in our hand, we're not too concerned about the flush draw. Plus we hold two of the outs for JT combos. So we can check-call just about any size bet here, and continue across most turns.

Result:

Hero can size down on flop if he wants (75-80), but b/flop shove/turn is normal