Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
If running away is an option, the gorilla would book it away from 100 men, exhaust himself to the point that it would literally have to collapse to the ground heaving, and then get absolutely mauled by the men because it's too tired to put up any defense at all.
This is just not an interesting proposition.
I don't think the gorilla is going to run around until it poops out and can't fight. You can't get enough men at once to subdue and hold down a gorilla before the gorilla takes turns injuring the men.
Do you think 100 5 year olds can beat an average strength man?
People seriously overestimate gorillas in these discussions. Especially their stamina. This is an easy win for the 100 men.
i feel people are seriously overestimating how willingly anyone will be to not run vs a charging silverback
glass partition still up, but everyone is running
take away the cinematographic 100 men charge in blindly a la john wick and braveheart and make people approach it while caring about living and the humans retreat and disengage every time unless they have weapons
i mean if they are allowed to make tools, build walls, etc then they could probably just tire him out while annoying him and then take him after he's exhausted but if just thrown onto a soccer field with no preparation nor weapons then they all quit and will refuse to engage
but of course the ape is unlikely to attack anyway - that's kinda what makes this an insane thing - not like a bear that actually will destroy you
Gorillas don't have much stamina. It won't take long.
I defer to the experts on this one.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/100-men-vs-1-...
“[Gorillas] are much stronger than us, not only in their physical body strength — they’ve got all that upper body strength, particularly the males,” Stoinski said. “They’re the largest primate on the planet, but also they’ve got these massive heads and jaws and jaw muscles, so they’re really strong biters — and all of this is in defense.”
By “in defense,” Stoinski explains that gorillas are vegetarians, so their strong muscles and jaws are used for protection rather than hunting.
So, what does Stoinski think? Could a single gorilla take on 100 men? According to her, no. The humans would likely win, she said.
“The male gorilla comes in with all of his size and strength, 400 pounds of pure muscle, incredible jaw strength, just a very intimidating demeanor,” she said. “I think, though, that in this case, it’s a numbers game. With 100 men coming after one gorilla, they just have a lot of strategies that they could use to wear the gorilla down, to tire them out. They can coordinate their behavior; they can take turns.”
It wouldn’t necessarily be a seamless win for the humans, though.
“He’d probably take out a number of humans in the fight; they wouldn’t go unscathed,” Stoinski said. “I think that the numbers just work in the human’s favor.”
There have been several articles talking to actual experts on these animals, and basically none of them think the gorilla would win (or even fight if given the option).
More:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2025...
Stoinski, who has studied gorillas for over 20 years, says that while the primates are "very strong," their size and strength has been a "little overestimated" over the course of the debate.
"I've seen in some places, 'Oh, they're 25 times stronger than a human being.' I've just seen these numbers that I don't know if they're based in reality," Stoinski said. "So, I do wonder, a little bit, if there's been some over exaggeration of the size and strength of gorillas, but that is not to dismiss the fact that they are very strong."
What benefits the group of people, in this scenario, "is the numbers piece of it" because they can take turns, coordinate an attack and attack on multiple fronts, Stoinski said.
"So, you have a gorilla that's fighting off people in the front, but you can have people attacking them from the back. They can take turns, so their endurance is going to be a lot longer than a single gorilla who might be fighting for hours."
Kaleb Judd, a wildlife biologist, came to the same conclusion on April 27, detailing in an X thread the reasons why man would reign supreme.
"We are definitely taking casualties, but this isn’t enough to just rip apart every man instantaneously before a couple guys on each limb are able to restrain him," Kaleb wrote. "He’d likely tire out fairly quickly relative to humans who have kinda maxed out our cardio endurance in exchange for the strength other apes have retained."
Michelle Rodrigues, a primatologist, conservation scientist, and member of the International Union for Conservation of Nature’s Primate Specialist Group focused on human-primate interactions, agrees that under normal circumstances, a gorilla won’t be squaring up against 100 men. “As strong as gorillas are, and as much damage as their canines can do, it’s not a fair fight, and a sensible gorilla would try to flee,” she tells Rolling Stone. “But via numerical odds assessment, I don’t think there’s much chance of a gorilla winning the fight when they have 100 humans to contend with.”
The problem with the question is how many men are willing to go on a suicide mission to tire it out
Also people underestimate how completely harmless a human punch or kick would be. On top of that there's only space for 5 or 6 guys to attack at once.ba gorilla could snap someone pretty effortlessly. I feel like 50 men lose easily but I have no clue about gorilla stamina.
People aren't taking the question seriously enough
I think it is important not to overestimate your 99 compatriots. They are all people stupid enough to fight a gorilla.
What you're saying is more of a return to 1st and 2nd century christianity. I think gospel writers probably had this view and the infamous "Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his Kingdom" quote in Matthew seems to it. People argue Jesus actually must have said this because it already was getting close to
He said that, but to understand what he meant by it, you need to imagine him saying it to one person.
That's how I interpret it: individual revelations that come via visions, dreams, etc.
I think it is important not to overestimate your 99 compatriots. They are all people stupid enough to fight a gorilla.
Reminds me of the quip regarding being on trial with a long prison-sentence at stake: Are you really comfortable with your fate resting in the hands of twelve folks not smart enough to get out of jury duty?
Reminds me of the quip regarding being on trial with a long prison-sentence at stake: Are you really comfortable with your fate resting in the hands of twelve folks not smart enough to get out of jury duty?
Hah, I like that.
I respect your game. Also remember to kick them while they are down, as this is arguably the best moment to kick a man.
Looks like gorillas always skip leg day. I think Trolly's got this.
Too late by then but watching the clever people deny responsibility using the the most stupid defense about other peoples actions kinda sums up the problem.
and it's why it will be too late again next time as we once again walk away whistling innocently while shouting at everybody else
No surprise that mockery tends to solidify the views of those on the receiving end. Anyone with a basic understanding of psychology and some self-restraint would quickly realize this and try a different approach.
Wait where did I say I wanted to kill all feminists? I assume most non-stupid feminists would choose the man over the bear because the average man is just less dangerous than the average bear. Unless we want to judge all men based on a small minority, in which case, nice job justifying racism I guess? I mean if you’re more scared of men because of higher crime rates, then being more scared of black men because of higher crime rates is the most justified group to hate against I guess.
Can you elaborate on that?
Wait where did I say I wanted to kill all feminists? I assume most non-stupid feminists would choose the man over the bear because the average man is just less dangerous than the average bear. Unless we want to judge all men based on a small minority, in which case, nice job justifying racism I guess? I mean if you’re more scared of men because of higher crime rates, then
I remember during COVID some folks in this forum were saying that the anti-vaxxers were really, really stupid.
I don't recall how they responded when someone pointed out that one of the largest (percentage-wise) groups opposed to the COVID vaccinations were African-American's.
Gorilla warfare ITT.
I remember during COVID some folks in this forum were saying that the anti-vaxxers were really, really stupid.
I don't recall how they responded when someone pointed out that one of the largest (percentage-wise) groups opposed to the COVID vaccinations were African-American's.
There's a difference between an antivaxer and an unvaccinated person.
Antivaxers are indeed really, really stupid. Not all unvaccinated people are.
For my own safety here, I have no idea the point of that post and I'm not reading the whole thread to try to figure it out. Last time I did this I got yelled at for gaslighting. Just trying to clear up a common confusion.
I remember during COVID some folks in this forum were saying that the anti-vaxxers were really, really stupid.
I don't recall how they responded when someone pointed out that one of the largest (percentage-wise) groups opposed to the COVID vaccinations were African-American's.
They should have said that that was false.
By the end of November 2021, differences in vaccination coverage were no longer statistically significant among Black and NH/OPI adults (difference = −0.5 and −3.0 percentage points, respectively), compared with coverage among White adults (Table 1).
There was no real racial divide in opinions on covid vaccination but there was a large political divide.
Of Americans surveyed from Sept. 13-22, 72% of adults 18 and older had been vaccinated, including 71% of white Americans, 70% of Black Americans, and 73% of Hispanics. Contrast these converging figures with disparities based on politics: 90% of Democrats had been vaccinated, compared with 68% of Independents and just 58% of Republicans.
This matches well with prior thoughts of who really really stupid people are before covid.
