1/3 No Limit Decision

Weird to play it like this. It puts you in a corner and makes your decision tougher. If you play hands correctly you don’t get into these types of leveling spots. I would have liked a bigger sizing pre like $60. Out of position from SB I like bumping it up an extra unit or two especially with that type of hand. The river check imo is very bad unless you specifically have a read this player frequently bluffs and then you’re snap calling. I don’t hate the turn check..and preflop sizing isn’t ideal but still probably profitable…but as played I think you have to call. You induced a bluff with a check on both turn and river so you kinda have to go with it. Unless you have read on villain he rarely bluffs.

I’m no expert. I’m here to learn but these are my thoughts. And please feel free to correct me if my thought process is wrong.

Against an unknown player I’m probably folding A5s pre. I don’t like putting more money in and having to play out of position. Calling seems worse. So I would dump the hand and wait til I have some info. But then again I’m bad at reading players and I’m afraid of monsters under the bed.

The c-bet on flop seems fine. I go 2/3 when heads up. I think it looks stronger if you’re trying to get a fold.

I like the check on the turn. V will fold a lot of his weaker pairs here and stay in with stronger hands.

River I go 1/3 here. I’m trying to get a crying call from pocket pairs 5-8s, JJ , and maybe a 9 that paired up.

AP pokerstudent69420 has a point about calling after inducing a bluff. But we need to stop to ask ourselves what is V bluffing with. He called the bet on a dry static board. Unlikely he has a draw. Small pairs would stay in here. Sets are unlikely to raise since there’s no danger of being outdrawn.

Turn goes check check. V may be thinking the A scared you so he didn’t bet his set or Aces up if he floated with A4 or A3. Likewise if the A beats him he may check behind.

V doesn’t have too many missed draws on the river. Maybe 65. V mostly likely has a made hand. And would he turn a showdown hand into a shovebluff? We don’t know he just sat down. It seems more likely to me that he has a set or 2 pair and is trying to get paid. I would fold.

To summarize
I would fold pre
C-bet flop
Check turn
Bet small River/fold to Vs shove

Im interested in knowing the results so I can see how wrong I am ��

Light 3betting OOP against unknowns at this stack depth is meh, imo. If BB is a loose moran I might consider flatting, but mostly I would just fold until I have a much better idea of who I'm dealing with.

This flop isn't really supposed to hit us so I'm not so sure how successful a cbet is going to be. And do we really have any FE at this stack size on a non scary turn double barrel?

I'm cool with the turn check. Flop is pretty drawless and he might have a hard time continuing now that our AK got there. Getting one more street of value or inducing is fine.

Think I would mostly bet small on the river looking for a weak hand to pay us off. As played, I guess we were inducing? The problem is that most players don't overbluff jam rivers, they were more likely to bluff this turn with our check, and weak showdownable hands just showdown, so we're mostly just up against TT... at least against most in the population.

My biggest problem with the whole hand is that we built a monster pot OOP with a very mediocre hand against a guy we have no read on. That's not a good plan, imo.

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I'm not 3-betting with A5s against a rando who just sat down. I'd rather just fold.

What are typical 1/3 players open-calling with from CO? If a bunch of broadway suited and offsuit, we probably have odds to call. I don't believe V has an A---an unknown is really x-back an Ace here?And H does.

Agree with GG (as usual) that 1/3 unknowns at 100bb aren't a great use of our 3!/f from the blinds strat. They just don't fold enough. If you are going to do that, err on the side of too big a 3! I'd make it 55 or so. Obvious and exploitable, but it's 1/3.

Cbet is w/e. My first impulse is to x a low rainbow board as the 3!. OTOH, V shouldn't have much either that connects. Maybe T9/98/99? Uh-oh. Maybe maybe 65s/54s?? And we can't know if they'll float with the two overs/mid-PPs that make up a lot of their range.

Checking the Ace on the turn only to induce. Usually betting. But if x-back, bet river. AP though, 220 back on a 163 pot, so sizes are kind of awkward.

Kind of want to jam turn then. We beat practically no Aces, and I could care less about seeing our 4 out wheel draw. Might induce a fold from some weaker Ax stuff---AT/AJ---that still beats us.

Calling here, but my pool will gleefully bluffjam river with garbage, even w/o a bunch of possible failed draws.

Don't like a light 3bet against an unknown at low stakes. People didn't come to the poker room to fold good hands. Really don't like the turn check. We don't have a strong enough hand to slow play. I'd fire a bet and let the villain think I have AK and got lucky. Winning the pot is a good result.

Preflop: 3-betting here every time against all but the confirmed absolute tightest opponents.

Flop: Equity runs pretty close, we have more missed over cards and villain has the set advantage, but we have a significant overpair advantage. Polarizing on this flop for a larger size (b50-b67.)

Turn: In theory, if we polarized flop we have little AX on turn and a lot of now middle pocket pairs, if we were trying to be at all balanced I think we check range and either bluff catch or shrink it to a two street game. In reality I think against the vast majority of 1/3 players most of their range is worse than an AX and they will fold worse than an AX by river. I'm going 75 on turn, jam river.

River: As played after they check back turn I'm betting 80 to get called by a worse pair, folding to any raise because they're never bluff raising. As played facing the jam I probably just dump it because it's never a worse made hand and most 1/3 players have literally never gone all in on the river with air.

This could be a matter of definitions, but A5s is not a light 3-bet in this spot. A light 3-bet is when we 3-bet wider than a fundamentally sound base strategy, A5s is going to be 3-bet by a solver here pure. You need a lot more of a read than "1/3 players open tightish and villain is a 30s white guy" to not 3-bet here.

Any suggestion of betting A5 with the hop of folding a better AX is outright bad.

Don't like pre against rando 1/3 player.

I really hope this is not a results oriented post, because rando low stakes player, on which you have no info, makes big river bet and you have a bluff catcher. There really is no sane answer other than fold.

Sure a rando is going to occasionally make a big river bluff, but never at a frequency we can pick it off successfully. This is a classic rule from "The Rules" by Ed Miller.

I like this guys post flop thinking folding here is probably right. What does he have that you’re beating that he’s calling pre and flop with that isn’t like 109 or 1010…unless he’s completely a donky. But I’m probably never just folding pre to an unknown player just because I’m OOP.

Really? Your pre-flop actions against an UTG unknown at low stakes should be very different from the Button and SB.

Villain isn’t UTG he was in HJ. What I meant ti say by never folding OOP was specifically A5s from SB to an unknown HJ open raise pre at $1/$3. But I’m never gettting myself in this type of spot by the river so if you are playing hands like this could just be more profitable to fold. Like Im raising more pre, id at least bet river and then I can just fold to a raise …I have more confidence in outplaying opponents post flop. I don’t try and induce river bluffs from unknown players at $1/$3 in this spot which I think is the glaring mistake here, so if you’re putting yourself in corners like this OOP I can see why folding would make sense for some

Not a fan of the software, but not like it's changing so...

Venice, this might be a LDO kind of question, but what size are you leading on Turn? We've 220 back, started with 300, and pot's 163. Pretty much any size obviously commits us, but shoving for 1.5X pot feels gross too.

In a HU pot with no other significant dead money in the pot to offset the horrendous rake at LLSNL, it is only possible for one of the two players (at most) to be profitable long term in this spot. So you have to ask yourself if that is likely to be the passive caller OOP with a speculative hand or the one in position with initiative. The in position player would have to be one of the room marks for me to bet on the the OOP player in this spot.

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About 1/2 pot.

I folded and he showed J9s. It was a weird line but typically don't see that sizing as a bluff in the room I play in]

So why is this a post?

As I said some small percentage of time they will show up with a bluff or perhaps he thought it was value. Doesn't matter, you made the right call. Take note, and move on.

You have to call river as played. You are way underepped and this has to be one of the best hands you'd ever have in this specific situation.

Most villians are going milky for value at these stakes especially since it looks like you have nothing (maybe JJ-KK) not all in.

He could turn any overcard hands into a bluff since your flop sizing was pretty small. KQ KJ QJ JT etc. Maybe even 56 suited 67 suited.

Yeah should have trusted my gut. But most players don’t turn a pair of 9s here into a bluff…people at $1/$3 do such crazy **** it’s hard lol

How high we are in our range is only relevant if they’re bluffing at or above the correct frequency. The only question is are they taking this line on the river with a bluff or worse made hand 37% of the time or more, and based on the provided information that seems like a bold assumption

is villain dependent, there are people who'd love to see you fold JJ or QQ face up. So he has slowplays 99 (maybe 44 33) - I don't know many live low stakes players who would check an ace on the turn, though they sure should. getting almost 2-1... is villain full of shit 1/3 of the time? depends on the villain... is probably close

His check on flop with 9x is rare in live... they mostly monkey stab....

H is in SB, and led flop. V called.

Kind of surprised V didn't raise a 1/3 cbet on 943r. Like, what are you hoping for on the Turn, V? H has a stabbing OP or they don’t. Just going to call down with a mediocre TP in a 3! pot? Admittedly, V shouldn't have much 44/33/43 as played.

Of course they do, but we know he's capable of it either rediculously over-valuing a bad 2nd pair or he can bluff big. That's data. I will also sometimes throw out something like "Yeah, you had me beat." when they have a pair which could have been a bluff or a value bet, and sometimes you get a genuine "Yeah, I was pretty sure you had nothing" or a "Whoa, really, I was bluffing"