GOAT NBA Discussion: Biggest fraud poster: fallguy. Super AIDS Containment thread

1 question for you:

Bigger reason for losing games 3 and 4?

A) needed a center

B) needed Lebron to score in 4th quarter

Lebron is literally a 0 ppg player and yet it's not his fault - his cast is simply insufficient.. lmfao.

If a star player like Curry, Jokic, or Lebron doesn't score in the 4th quarter, then this equals a choke & trash performance that causes loss 100% of the time... Show me where Curry, Jokic, or any mega star didn't score in the 4th and their team won.

It's not zero points but Steph was 1-4 with 1 assist and no other stats in the 4th quarter yesterday and they won. Conversely LeBron was 0-2 with 2 assists, 1 rebound, 3 blocks, and a steal in the 4th quarter of game 4 and they lost. I don't think there's any way you can argue that Steph contributed more in the 4th of his game than LeBron did in his. The same goes for the game as a whole - there's basically no metric by which Steph was better than Lebron in their respective game 4s (Steph had fewer points, assists, rebounds, steals, blocks, worse shooting %, more turnovers).

0 or 3 points are both considered "chokes" if they result in loss, but 0 points is historic and deserves a lot more attention, yet it got none... Instead, fans and media proved that there's no circumstance where Lebron's teammates won't be blamed for a loss, even when Lebron doesn't score at all.

In addition to not scoring or even providing 3 points like Curry did (so the Lakers could tie), Lebron had negative plays that cost the game, such as the horrific turnover and also the horrible foul on a falling Ant-man... Each of these plays caused loss on their own, in addition to Lebron's lack of scoring, or even threat to score (low attempts).. It simply can't be beneficial or a winning scenario for Lebron to turn into Jared Vanderbilt in the 4th.. It's a choke - plain and simple - and without this choke, the Lakers wouldn't "need a center" and would probably be headed to the Finals instead.

Btw, this 1st Round loss will be the 2nd in a row and both had historic choking because the Lakers lost 4 straight 4th quarter leads to lose against Denver,,, He also lost a 2-1 lead to Booker in 2021, while being lottery in 19' and 22'... So he was a complete disaster in a non-manufactured conference like the West.. History shows that he couldn't win as 1st option without franchise guys at 2nd and 3rd option - his scoring style of ball-dominance is simply THAT toxic for teammates and coaching.

Btw, here's Broussard calmly annihilating Nick Wright about ball-dominance (11:28 to the 16:13 mark):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSPikaf8...

Curry scored a whole 3 points last night going 1 of 4. He was trash in the last (and was poor for the whole game). Butler carried them to the win.

LeBron was fine in the last quarter (better than Curry). But you watched neither game so you would have no idea.

Slow pony.

AD always hurt and if 100 players could do it with AD well his got only 1 ring so will see if he can win one without lebron since AD is so amazing ….

Shaq had a better dwade then lebron and couldn’t do better then 1/4 …

Kyrie, AD and harden finished how exactly ?
Unless you tell me love is a better player than harden ?

The brand of ball that a team can run when the 1st option's skillset is highly-assisted (Curry, MJ) produces 5 ball-touchers and scoring threats on every possession, so the team can still win when Curry scores less, or doesn't play at all.

This optimal approach to the game (ball movement) contrasts with the 1 or 2-man brand that Luka and Lebron employ, which requires them to produce massively for the team to barely win and generally underwhelm... This 1 or 2-man brand entails ball-domination/PNR and unassisted buckets/solo missions that increase everyone assisted buckets, aka "turns everyone into spot-up shooter", aka "corner dudes"...

This basic brand of 1-man basketball gets smoked by all good highly-assisted 1st options and 5-man basketball like Rip, Pierce, Dwight, Dirk, Duncan, Kawhi, Curry, Durant, Booker, Jokic, Ant - these are all highly-assisted players, aka players that don't rely on primary ballhandling, which is reflected in a career assisted rate that is above 40% - anyone below 40% is invariably a primary ballhandler.

Hope that helps.

I mean the Lakers scored more points, at a better shooting percentage from the field and from 3, but yeah, definitely what you said.

If Lebron had scored 3 points in the 4th, then the Lakers had a path to the Finals instead of his 3rd first round exit in the West, along with 2 lotteries - he's officially a fraud - everyone knows now.. The results CONTINUE to line up with the facts and bball 101 about ball-dominators (they're losers).

Yet he got 4 rings.
Lebron is a loser when he wins and a loser when he loses .
Amazing ain’t it …

Can you at least say his the best “winning loser “ ever ?

3 first round losses and 2 lotteries out West

So I think it's official now. Ant is better than Jordan at the same age.

At 23 he's now seen off KD, Joker, Luka & LeBron. And if the Warriors somehow advance he'll knock off Steph.

It took to 27 before MJ even beat an all time great and it was aids-infested Magic. He was 0-6 against Bird.

Then for the rest of his career he only beat baby Shaq and a couple of borderline Top 20 players in Malone and Barkley. And he needed GOAT coach, GOAT number 2 and an incredible 50+ win supporting cast to do it.

Hats off to you Ant.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnLOdvgR...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhdMHcI2...

Ant's timeline and trajectory to being superior to Lebron is different than MJ's.

Specifically, the 2025 Lakers were 14th in SRS, so MJ didn't face a team that bad until he was 27 years old in the 1990 1st Round... MJ only lost to goat-level teams when he had no help like the 86' Celtics, Bad Boys, or Shaq/Penny Magic (cold turkey)... Unlike Ant, who lost a lot with All-NBA players and all-stars, MJ was unbeatable the instant he got KAT, Gobert or Randle-level players (Pippen, Rodman).

23-year Jordan also destroys Ant in PER, BPM, WS/48, VORP, and 10 more PPG, plus 63 points against the #1 defense and Rushmore team (86' Celtics)..

And we can compare 2-handed jams (above).. Carry on

The win prediction occurred immediately after the Luka trade and along with McLovin's similar knee-jerk reaction at the same time... But after that and for the last few months, I predicted that they would get annihilated and that the weak chemistry of ball-dominance would get exposed... And that's exactly what happened.

Remember when Warriors trailed by only 2 at the end of 3. On their home court.

And then laid an egg and got destroyed in the 4th.

We can't blame Steph though because he made a 3 in junk time when the game was over. Before that he was throwing up bricks and turning the ball over and hadn't scored. Lucky he made that pointless bucket though otherwise FG would be all over him.

It's a massive trend because Lebron's team historically-choked in the 4th quarter against Denver and now the T'Wolves too.. No one in history has so many examples of historic choking, such as 2023, 2024, 2025, 2021 (lost a 2-1 lead to Booker), 2009 (+700 favorite), 2010 (-500 favorite), 2011 (goat choke), 2014 (record loss), and many more.

Furthermore, Lebron is a massive negative off-ball, so he lost with Luka frieking Doncic in the 1st Round... He tried to have higher assisted rates alongside Luka, but he can't run off screens like Curry or Ant, so he isn't playing a winning off-ball style - he simply tries "to go downhill upon the catch", according to the T'Wolves' coach.. This is a massively negative approach, as proven by the upset loss in the 1st Round and Lebron's massive negative for the series.

Accordingly, Lebron is a horrible off-ball player, which explains why he never did it before.. So the unfolding events continue to prove me right - Lebron can't play off-ball - he's a dumb ball-dominator and therefore a perennial loser (can't produce great teams or win with "normal" rosters of 1 franchise player).

And what does this have anything to do with known choke job too for steph in the 4th quarter that fidstar alluded too .

Curry his amazing and lebron sucked immensely and yet curry gets a pass for one of the greatest choke ever too in 2016 by you because you know , his not lebron.

Typical double standard -> FG signature move .

Touché !

Lebron has more and greater chokes than Curry... No one ever choked like 2011 Finals.

In addition to the 11' Finals, Curry never melted down like the 2010 ECSF, which caused "the decision" to quit real competition and embark on a colluding era instead...

These are history-changing chokes that Curry never had, and Curry also doesn't have any series where he played worse than anyone ever has like Lebron does... Lebron had the greatest combination of chucking and turnovers ever in the 07' Finals and 08' ECSF with 35% shooting and 5 TO's per game... Finally, Lebron has 3 massive chokes in the 1st Round in 2021, 2024, and 2025, which includes lost leads in the 4th quarter for nearly every loss - it's unprecedented choking in the 4th that the NBA has never seen before.

In addition to Lebron having more and greater chokes than Curry as described in the previous post, we can literally prove that Curry's game produces better teams.

Specifically, it's bball 101 that teams win games based on talent and/or chemistry... Accordingly, since Lebron's teams had ample talent and the most preseason favorites ever, the subsequent fall to Finals underdog or loser was due to lack of chemistry.. In other words, Lebron's fall from preseason favorite to Finals underdog or loser can be directly attributed to his weak chemistry (described throughout the thread, aka imposing spot-up roles, etc)..

Essentially, people complain about Lebron having Finals underdogs, but he started as the preseason favorite, so the fall to underdog or loser is due exclusively to his weak chemistry and brand of ball... i.e. Preseason favorite (aka the best talent) + fall to underdog = inferior chemistry.

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Hi FG , why new handle ?