Fat loudmouth at Red Rock gets knocked tf out!

self defense absolutely matters.

Finally some good discussion on two plus two.

And the fat guy got what he ordered.

the fat guy always gets what he ordered.

You clearly don’t have a clue what squaring up means.

You can shoot someone without consequence in the US if it's ruled self defense.

Someone shot a youtube prankster in Virginia after he was being physically aggressive, not guilty on all counts besides a gun charge (this was in a mall either he wasn't supposed to have a gun there, or he wasn't supposed to have one at all)

Hellls where are you from? jw.

I'm on the fringe. Doubt anything outside a ban happens.

Cheap shot? Yes, but not entirely... big guy knew the situation and instigated.

Ain't the short guy's first rodeo, fists rolled up, slitherin' like a snake.

I'd laugh if this was all over who's 2$ BB it was. 😃

Yeah self defense maybe matters but the fat guy was not enough of threat to knock him out like that imo. He didn't even touch him. Yes I know I know he came at him but still there was room and one guy was still between.

Did he deserve it? Yes but it's still not how people should solve such situations in public. Just run away from the fat guy, scream für Security (like a pussy) and that's it.

Highly doubt this will have no consequences but to each their own opinion.

so you're supposed to just let someone who is threatening you, squaring up and coming at you hit you before you can actually defend yourself?

If u plan to knockout people like that then yes. As absurd this may sound to u.

Threat was not big enough to justify this action. That fat guy could probably not even wave any meaningfull punch at him. And he was only verbally aggressive at that very moment with one guy still between them.

so now he's supposed to know this giant ox is as fragile as a 95 year old when he defends himself?

NV is a stand your ground state. No requirement to retreat even if you can. A single punch when being verbally threatened and physically charged seems proportional to the threat.

Now if short guy was initial aggressor, situation could change but from this video alone we have no clue.

But no duty to do so.

Ok you're just not watching the video clearly enough. Now why they're both standing circling each other idk, what lead to it idk, if the smaller guy had remained seated whether or not it would have escalated this far idk, however....

The big guy is charging towards him telling him do what you gotta do. At 5-6 seconds he just rushes thru a food/drink table thats between them both to further advance on him. That alone clearly shows his intention and willingness to push through something standing between them(the guy in the middle will be a bit harder to push through but if he does the big guy will have the size and now the jump on the smaller guy). This is enough for the smaller guy to feel threatened to take an opening while he has it. And the big guy is literally saying "I'll fkn slap the...." as he gets knocked out. He's given every indication of being a threat and when you run up on a guy that's been in a few fights in his lifetime this is exactly the outcome you'll get

Stand your ground state.
Physically and verbally threatened by someone considerably larger
One single punch thrown.

Seems very proportional to the threat presented. If he used a knife or bat, different story. If when guy was down he continued hitting him, different story. But if someone considerably larger than you, threatens you with violence, pursues you, throwing one single,e punch when you fear being hit is reasonable response. You do not have to wait until he strikes you first. Though the response does need to be proportional to the perceived threat.

Amazing how many experts there are on a poker forum who have never been in a fight. The big guy never squared up, and there is a guy in between. What the smaller guy did was incredibly cowardly and anyone with any fight experience will tell you that.

Small guy circled behind the guy in the middle to block fatty and the fat guy came around again with threats just before the punch but I guess you could just argue small guy coulda ran away. He probably gets charged but doesn't deserve it.

edit: small guy moved behind middle guy to keep distance twice, fatty tried moving around middle dude barking threats. I dont know what your definition of squaring up is but fatty was def being verbally and physically aggro and got what he deserved.

going around bullying people because you know cameras are everywhere and most people don't want to get banned/arrested is A+ cowardly bitch behavior. In fact the only thing that could make him a bigger coward is if he was threatening someone while they're working knowing fully well they can't do anything about it. Getting laid out in 2 seconds by someone half of his size is such incredible justice for a filthy piece of **** like this.

I'd say most people who are fine with it have in fact gotten into fights before and have been punched. because when you have gotten punched in the face before you don't act like this slob of a human being. They also hate people like the dude who got wrecked. We've all dealt with them before in poker rooms and we all know they'd never act like this without a million cameras around.

pretty simple. small guy never advanced on him an inch only didnt back down and circled the guy advancing on him and making verbal threats. should he wait til the other guy punches him first to be considered courageous?

I have been in many fights and trust when you let someone this size get a hold of you they will absolutely **** you up.

I am so glad this got got what he deserved.

This case is a loser for a prosecutor, they might take a shot if the little guy was willing to take a plea but that's it. Any decent defense attorney gets this case tossed.

Simple battery is the most likely charge in nevada, a misdemeanor, to go to felony battery you need substantial bodily harm.

In nevada, If you reasonably believed you were in danger of bodily harm then self defense applies.

On the flip side, if you want to charge people, big man is probably committing simple assualt himself.
Threatening violence is assualt, putting another person in reasonable fear of immediate harm is assault, can include verbal threats. But then again if that is the case it proves that little man was acting in self defense.

This would never go to a jury, it's a loser for the prosecutor and i don't think they would every try to go to trial, look how split the forum is, whether the "court" or judge thinks little man should be charged the jury is made of every day people, at least some will see a bigger man threatening a smaller man.

all of this. the prosecutor would know it's a waste of time. You're never getting a conviction for this nonsense in court. They might tell the guy to plead to some bullshit fine to be done with it but that's it.

First instinct is that Im very happy that the big bully got punched.

However, the video doesnt show the full story, ie where it all started.

Its possible the smaller dude is the evil of the story...

Some of the takes on here are pretty halarious.

The only trouble the shorter dude will receive is whatever the consequences of fighting in a casino are. Nothing additional unless maybe he is trained in combat sports or marshal arts and someone makes the case because of that there was no threat to his safety. Or maybe if he instagated everything or some other evidence not in the video.

From the actual video. Both guys were ready to fight. No assault. In a fight somebody needs to strike first. This isn't a boxing match where they touch gloves first. Should he be punished more for landing the punch in a good spot? Or because the guy he hit couldn't take a punch? I could see how some might consider it a bit of a sucker punch. But they had already gone past the point of a verbal spat.... I mean they were already both standing and squaring up. There is no assault here.

The short guy saying "I was scared" was clearly being sarcastic. Whoever posted that he was saying that as to set up his defense for criminal charges can't read people at all. I'd say that poster should never be allowed to post any opinions on human behavior ever again.

Yep, fat boy gotta learn how to handle being slowrolled in 1-3.