1000$ - KK facing some action

Yikes. I fold against the overcall. At best he has a huge combo draw. At worst, you're staring down AA or a set.

Hate the spot, but 25k out of the 60k starting stack is already in and it is a very wet board...

Man this is a gross spot but with so much money in the pot already I'm not sure I could find a fold.

A set is very possible but so are overpairs-- I'm not sure anyone is trapping AA three ways, to be honest. Maaaaybe one of them has AhQh. We have a little hope when we're wrong, too, with the set outs and the two backdoor draws.

I am curious what MP had preflop, ie, was it > 42,000 chips?

My pre flop sizing would have been about 14,000 in general and at that point I would probably have just jammed if the effective stack was 42,000. People will think that I am jamming with hands like AK/AQ. But I'm guessing 10,000 is a standard 4-bet sizing for KK here.

As played we are likely behind and we block a flush draw. Somebody has a set. Probably a set and an A high flush draw though probably limited to AQs/AJs and AJs probably folds sometimes preflop. It is possible that one Villain has a flush draw and the other has QQ/JJ. Or they could have QQ & JJ. I think I just call and rebuy.

You need to win something like 1/5 of the time to make the call based on the pot odds you're getting. I think you just have to get it in.

Also the two players that put their money in both took pretty fishy lines (meaning they're likely bad and could have all kinds of unexpected hands). UTG+1 cold called a 4-bet OOP with the 3-bettor still yet to act.

Anyway you're going to lose this hand a lot but I don't think you can fold. At least you have the Kh to provide a little backdoor equity for the times you run into a set. I consider that a net positive even though you're also blocking bluff/draw combos.

My first thought was that I was pretty sure I was behind, but I couldn't fold and would just do a rebuy in worst case. Since only 15 players had checked in at that point, this option wasn't very attractive. Then I considered which value hands I could beat: those would be A 10, QQ, JJ. Then those that beat me: 99, 10, 9 10, AA. Against all draws, the chances are about 50/50, with me being slightly behind in combo draws. My gut feeling said call, my head said fold, since a rebuy isn't worth it and I can still play well with the remaining 35,000 chips. I folded the Kings!

UTG +1 showed pocket 4`s
Cutoff showed Q J offsuit

Directly after the hand, I was extremely upset about my fold. Based on your assessments, I don't think it was results-oriented thinking but rather a genuine mistake. Paying closer attention to the pot odds would have helped in making the right decision.

Man that field has some real value in it!

would bet flop a lot smaller and probably never fold

Pretty sick you got 2 calls with the 3b sizing. Great computation if you figured they're pumping all those chips in like that.

My 3b sizing would be 6k; if you were exploiting with the sizing, then nh I would not have found that one myself

but be consistent with pre: cant expect 2 people to put in 10k and so rarely have worse like folding would imply

6k seems a bit small from this deep OOP against multiple players.

Call.

I would prefer to have more descriptive reads on opponents and the name of the event. Don't fault the fold tho if it's your first experience in four digit regional MEs. Now you know how these populations behave.

6k is way to small imo. I'd probably make it 14000-16000 in game.

damn i didnt even see were oop

guess that silly cold call is pretty telling yeah sure raise it up I guess

this hand is a gift btw very entertaining and some thought peovoking data.

TY brother OP <3

Is this a serious post? The spr is 1.6. Just write it off to a cooler when we lose lmao. If we are folding here, we should just never play tournaments.

Btw I’m sorry, you should not play tournaments if you fold this spot. This is a spot we just have to take. Sure we going to run into a lot of equity a lot or sets but we gotta call here. We aren’t playing to win if we fold this spot.

You didn't say that. You said you were "10-handed" and this was the second hand of the tournament.

How is it possible that in the 2nd hand at the beginning of a $1000 highroller that we are in the money and there are only 10 players left? I had assumed that you got there late and this was your second hand and you had a starting stack of 60,000 chips...

Also I have never played in a live tournament where we were in the money at the 300/600 level. Typically that is the 5th level although in some places it is the 6th level (if we started at 100/100).

I would be surprised if this was an online tournament that the starting stack was 60,000 chips...

Please be clear about what your stack size was, what the MP stack size was, is this live or online, how many players total in the tournament, how many players were paid, how many minutes each level, what was the starting level.

Please excuse the unclear description.

Here's the tournament:
https://www.buy-in.info/tournament/10801...

Here`s the payouts:

I started 2 hours after the tournament began, in Level 5 (300/600/600). It was my 2nd hand. However, it was already clear at that point that not many more participants would join. In total, there were only 14 entries. The stack sizes were all around 60,000.

If 10 people are left and only 3 get paid, it's not particularly ICM-sensitive either. ICM is dependent on 1)immediate pay jumps and 2)how much of the starting field is remaining.

Weird spot, But I honestly think that there is just too much in the pot to fold. There are only 2 reasonable hands that beat you AA and TT. I would discount AA significantly because most people will not want to play AA multiway. You are way ahead of JJ and QQ. You are flipping with AhQh, AhJh.

I think you just have to go with it. You can't really be facing a combo draw, because combo draw can you these players have? 8h7h? If you put that in their range, then you are giving them an insanely wide range here. If that's the case, then you might be up something like Ah7h or any random flush draw, which makes it a much clearer call.