Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
Kids have always felt alienated, just in the past they were apolitical and could establish real world views before being thrust into the political spectrum. There was this general sense that kids were meant to be kids and could figure it out on their own.
Now Right Wing propaganda is specifically targeting children with it being encouraged for parents to instill their own brand of brainwashing into their kids.
This idea that the left is driving young people to the right is kind of ******ed and unproductive self flagellation. The left can't continue to eat itself while the right is in lock step.
oh so you wouldn’t advocate this, you are just being bad faith because it’s a message board. so you don’t actually stand by any of this rhetoric?
actually it's quite the opposite. whether i'd advocate for that as a political strategy or not is totally irrelevant because i'm not a politician. because we're just two jackasses on a message board i'm free to say that white supremacists are stupid *******s. i know you want it one way, where i'm obligated to pat you on the head and tell you what a special lil perfect boy you are, but it's the other way
these ****in herbs who interpret the entire world through the lens of american elections, i stg man... lol
Look at your fellow socialists in this thread.
Besides, Marx says this but no moral judgment is placed on this and no compassion is extended to the people who are alienated.
If your alienation leads you to become right-wing, you become a class traitor, not someone to feel compassion towards. Alienation makes you a target.
Marx invented the concept of alienation same as he invented the concept to "labor exploitation" even when no violence in involved.
it's all bullshit. not that everyone always like what they do for a living obviously, but the idea that the capitalist system of production alienates workers while other arrangements don't is simply bullshit.
a lot of people don't find any value (other than their wages) or meaning in their activities even outside capitalism , and a lot do inside capitalism.
it's the old trite bullshit of "the farmer loved his job in the middle ages".
Please show me how my analysis of Marxist response to alienation is confusing socialists with liberals
"Look at your fellow socialists in this thread"
Calling lefties socialists and marxists is about as right wing loon as one could possibly get. I'd consider this before denying that you are a right wing loon when people call you out for being a right wing loon
Kids have always felt alienated, just in the past they were apolitical and could establish real world views before being thrust into the political spectrum. There was this general sense that kids were meant to be kids and could figure it out on their own.Now Right Wing propaganda is specifically targeting children with it being encouraged for parents to instill their own brand
the only protests held by minors that we saw are those "Friday for the future" organized by your fellow Greta.
it's absurd that you claim the right targets children when the left controls all public education, pushes climate and LGBT radical propaganda in schools and online, and are the only ones having minor protesting in mass.
the left drives *young men* to the right because leftism is emasculating.
the concept of *toxic masculinity* without the counterpart of *toxic femininity* itself is obscenely anti-men.
vegetarianism is antimen, safetism is antimen, pacifism is antimen.
a party cannot claim being a man is inherently immoral if you don't behave and think like a woman, and then get the votes of men who aren't weak betas or feminized.
the only left that attracts some young men is the radical left.
at least the radical left (the material, violent one) doesn't treat your innate (and biologically healthy) violent pulsions as immoral (it "just" gives them a wrong way to be used against).
at least under radicalism you can destroy what you dislike (a healthy moral attitude) and hope for a better future *for you personally* rebuilding on the ruins.
ofc it can't work because the proposals are distopia but the framework isn't antimen propensities.
fighting even violently for something is healthy and is what young men want to feel they do.
putting a mask on because there is a new flu isn't. especially if you eat only plants.
"Look at your fellow socialists in this thread"
Calling lefties socialists and marxists is about as right wing loon as one could possibly get. I'd consider this before denying that you are a right wing loon when people call you out for being a right wing loon
72o is an actual socialist though
the only protests held by minors that we saw are those "Friday for the future" organized by your fellow Greta.it's absurd that you claim the right targets children when the left controls all public education, pushes climate and LGBT radical propaganda in schools and online, and are the only ones having minor protesting in mass.the left drives *young men* to the right because le
"The left controls all public education" is such a ******ed statement to make that I can't bring myself to read the rest of your post
You have a real problem with making posts like this where you start of with such a provably false statement that the 25 other sentences become untenable for my general mental health
Words mean things. Socialism means workers own and operate companies. It's the opposite of wage slavery. We shouldn't capitulate to idiocy.
Lol the workers can own and operate companies and still be at the mercy of slave wages. It can improve or ruin the situation due to factors that are far more complex than ... system good/bad kuckledragging derp.
"The left controls all public education" is such a ******ed statement to make that I can't bring myself to read the rest of your post
You have a real problem with making posts like this where you start of with such a provably false statement that the 25 other sentences become untenable for my general mental health
afaik teacher unions all endorsed Biden in 2024 (and most confirmed their endorsement to Harris after he dropped out).
more than 75% of K12 teachers are women and that alone makes them skew quite dramatically to the left (as we know from gender splits in the vote).
saying they control all public education is clearly hyperbolic but they do have a very very tight grasp over children in public education, and use and abuse it as much as they can to indoctrinate children in leftism
If left wing teachers are indoctrinating children then why are we talking about young people shifting further right because the left is pushing them that way?
Its such a vast chasm of a contradiction its almost like its total nonsense
If left wing teachers are indoctrinating children then why are we talking about young people shifting further right because the left is pushing them that way?
Its such a vast chasm of a contradiction its almost like its total nonsense
because you can't indoctrinate young adult men with just words, you actually push them away.
while you can indoctrinate young adult women just by making them believe your ideas area majoritarian.
it's young *men* shifting right and rejecting leftism, not young *people*, in the USA currently.
18-29 women are the most leftist they have ever been.
and btw it's not only education ofc.
I mean do you even TALK with men under 30? do you understand how much they mock leftism as utter feminine garbage?
how eating a steak is right coded for them these days?
because you can't indoctrinate young adult men with just words, you actually push them away.while you can indoctrinate young adult women just by making them believe your ideas area majoritarian.it's young *men* shifting right and rejecting leftism, not young *people*, in the USA currently.18-29 women are the most leftist they have ever been.and btw it's not only education ofc.I
This is such rubbish it's clear that you're making it up as you go along.
Many young men are being indoctrinated by the likes of Andrew Tate's words. Football grounds have long been one of the most favoured recruitment places for the far right.
Take a break, fash. Spend some time with your young family.
This is such rubbish it's clear that you're making it up as you go along.
Many young men are being indoctrinated by the likes of Andrew Tate's words. Football grounds have long been one of the most favoured recruitment places for the far right.
Take a break, fash. Spend some time with your young family.
football, like box gyms and so on, isn't just words exactly.
to indoctrinate young men you need to give them action.
State didn't indoctrinate anyone, he attracted people who already agreed with his general ideas, very different phenomenon.
and he is currently a joke among the right btw, not sure why you and cordie believe he has any influence.
actually it's quite the opposite. whether i'd advocate for that as a political strategy or not is totally irrelevant because i'm not a politician. because we're just two jackasses on a message board i'm free to say that white supremacists are stupid *******s. i know you want it one way, where i'm obligated to pat you on the head and tell you what a special lil perfect boy you a
football, like box gyms and so on, isn't just words exactly.
to indoctrinate young men you need to give them action.
State didn't indoctrinate anyone, he attracted people who already agreed with his general ideas, very different phenomenon.
and he is currently a joke among the right btw, not sure why you and cordie believe he has any influence.
Eh, not when many of his fans are 12-15. That's certainly indoctrination as nobody that age has the life experience to agree with anyone's general ideas. At the very least it is indeed influence. Hopefully he gets convicted in Romania or failing that extradited to the UK and sent off to the Scrubs.
Tate appeals to boys with low EQ, intelligence, and value by espousing the merits of misogyny.
This aligns well with current Republican messaging on education, immigration, and DEI
I don't even think Tate talks about politics but I admittedly don't watch any of his content. I also didn't bring him up so no sure why you mentioned me
luc anecdotally about 99% of all the crazy nonsense i've ever heard spouted has come out of the mouth of a man
And his name was Luciom.
because you can't indoctrinate young adult men with just words, you actually push them away.
while you can indoctrinate young adult women just by making them believe your ideas area majoritarian.
I hate to repeat myself so soon, but if there is one thing that the men of 2+2 have proven they are super expert on, it's women.
^Tate above, not State obv
Eh, not when many of his fans are 12-15. That's certainly indoctrination as nobody that age has the life experience to agree with anyone's general ideas. At the very least it is indeed influence. Hopefully he gets convicted in Romania or failing that extradited to the UK and sent off to the Scrubs.
last time I heard he is in the USA with Florida state (and maybe some other states?) building a casa against him.
Tate appeals to boys with low EQ, intelligence, and value by espousing the merits of misogyny.
This aligns well with current Republican messaging on education, immigration, and DEI
I don't even think Tate talks about politics but I admittedly don't watch any of his content. I also didn't bring him up so no sure why you mentioned me
Tate is a brown Muslim.
He is further away from republican messaging than Tim Walz.
jalfrezi did take him up I mentioned you as well because in the past you named him more than once as some kind of big relevant element of the online landscape while he is just a fringe ultra niche joke like fuentes
