Fat loudmouth at Red Rock gets knocked tf out!
I bet the smaller guy was surprised the huge dipshit was more Glass Joe than King Hippo. You don’t ‘plan’ to knock someone out with one punch when he’s squaring up, that big, and acting like a tough guy.
And no, you don’t need to wait to get socked before defending yourself.
Amazing how many experts there are on a poker forum who have never been in a fight. The big guy never squared up, and there is a guy in between.
What’s amazing is that you’re able to know if a poster has been in a fight or not based on whether they agree with your ******ed analysis.
The fat guy is aggressively pursuing the smaller guy, lifts his shorts, shouting at him saying ‘what’s up?! Whatsup?! You think I’m scared of you?! I’ll slap the shi-—-‘ in the 5 seconds before he dropped like a rock.
The guy in between doesn’t eliminate the threat. Even though he’s trying to help, he’s actually making it more dangerous for the smaller guy.
I'd say most people who are fine with it have in fact gotten into fights before and have been punched. because when you have gotten punched in the face before you don't act like this slob of a human being.
Yup. When I was young I got into several, but I’m over 25 now, and realize how stupid it is to fight, and that you should avoid it at all costs.
I’d never be in this situation though, because I’m sure there was a lot of ****-talking that led up to this, and you never know when some moron had a gun or knife or nothing to lose and suddenly your life can change (like the one punch knockouts you hear about where people die from their heads hitting a curb or asphalt.
Wrong.
What really happened was that the smaller man used the man in the middle as a shield and sucker punched the larger man.
Lol.
you don't have a clue about mancode nor fighting.
lmfao.
This case is a loser for a prosecutor, they might take a shot if the little guy was willing to take a plea but that's it. Any decent defense attorney gets this case tossed.Simple battery is the most likely charge in nevada, a misdemeanor, to go to felony battery you need substantial bodily harm.In nevada, If you reasonably believed you were in danger of bodily harm then self d
This.
If ever in the situation of the small guy, the first thing a person should do is ask the other person loudly if they are threatening you. For one, there is a small chance this will stop them and make them think because you are using the threatening word. Probably not, but a small chance. Secondly and more importantly, you are raising the point of feeling threatened by doing this. If the other guy doesn't respond (or responds by issuing more threats) you make it much easier to raise a self-defense argument later. You are making it clear that you consider his behavior to be reasonably threatening.
If I were a prosecutor, I charge both of them and probably aggravated on the smaller guy if the injuries are bad enough, even if it’s the knee from the collapse.
Looks like fat man could have blown out a knee …. fafo.
My take on this is short guy doesnt have much to lose.Probably not a house or a great career or a massive 401k/bank acct or kidsI'm not particularly successful, I have built a decent life, but not something anyone would be jealous ofAnd there's ZERO chance I'm risking getting into a fight of any kind if at all possible.I got kids who need me, I'm two years from a full $85K a ye
Very good Post. And it's very evident by some of the answers itt hat short guy is not alone in the "I have nothing to lose"-crew, lol.
that his knees arent in great shape is mostly his own fault
Kind of surprised that by now we haven’t heard from someone who was there, or knows the players involved, or from the players themselves.
Talked about at begging of episode, but no real new information but they did report that LVPD said no charges were filed, as of yet. Or at least LVPD wasn’t aware of this incident and wasn’t called to respond.
Talked about at beginning of episode, but no real new information but they did report that LVPD said no charges were filed, as of yet. Or at least LVPD wasn’t aware of this incident and wasn’t called to respond.
Exactly. Tonsafun just wants his insurance to cover his knee, Hometown happy to quickly fade into the Vegas ether with a presumed 86, none of the other players wanted anything to do with it, and the casino just wanted to make sure they weren’t liable after the forklift came and went; undoubtedly there will be some internal repercussions for the on-duty managers & security.
Big city cops see this Mickey Mouse crap a dozen times a night and will do anything to avoid the paperwork, and no big city prosecutor will touch it without a corpse in the cooler.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is not from the US or naive and ignorant. But it has been heartening to see 2p2 has this many street fighting experts.
Short guy should have shot him with a gun. That's perfectly acceptable in the US. Punching him though is crossing a line, and opens himself up to all sorts of legal trouble. (In the UK, it's standard to punch people. No one cares.)
Probably someone should have told the fat guy that he was really, really fat. He identified as a fit, healthy tough guy, which was his downfall.
LOL. What?!?! It was clearly a sucker punch.AJ Benza sucker punching Stuttering John on Howard Stern.
lol, that was great, miss how fun that show was back in the day
something tells me yanks are soft
this is a everyday scenario in london/UK/Ireland
people saying omg this is lethal force etc jesus harden up ladies
Kind of surprised that by now we haven’t heard from someone who was there, or knows the players involved, or from the players themselves.
Only locals really playing there (I doubt ant 2p2ers and if it was decent action they probably wouldn’t be talking about it here. Southpoint games are likely better for the same limits and “local feel.”
If you were a prosecutor you'd have tons of cases and wouldn't have time to deal with nonsense like this.
And I would expect it to plea out just like the other 95% of my cases as a city or county prosecutor.
something tells me yanks are soft
this is a everyday scenario in london/UK/Ireland
people saying omg this is lethal force etc jesus harden up ladies
Yes, Yanks and rest of the world are aware of how proud ya’ll are for being sloppy drunk hooligans who like to fight over SOCCER 😀…congrats.
Not sure where anyone called it ‘lethal force,’ but whatevs.
And I would expect it to plea out just like the other 95% of my cases as a city or county prosecutor.
So, you were a prosecutor? If so was it in a large city? Vegas is a step beyond, where drunken ‘fights’ happen dozens of times a night on any given night on the strip alone. The two guys could be back in Wichita by now.
And even if you were a prosecutor in a middling-sized city, are you going to pursue this case? Do you see potential criminal charges here? Honestly curious (if you were a criminal prosecutor). Since everyone else has just been speculating without real expertise.
Or are you just speaking hypothetically. And if you are, it’d be great if a crim. prosecutor could chime in…I’m sure we’ve got one lurking around. One chimed in to excoriate Gman’s ‘report’ while the dimwitted fanbois were overwhelmed by it’s ‘evidence’
I filled in part time for a partner that was a municipal prosecutor so I could get one of the badges they carried. It was a tiny municipality, next to a major city in the second biggest county in the state. The only three charges we would not simply dismiss without further review were OMVI, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE and Assault. We had a local bar that was a punch palace and the source of at least one of these each weekend. Sometimes the severity of the injuries or the frequency would result in a bind over to the county, as we only handled misdemeanors.
I would expect vegas with its security systems would easily id and detain the “little guy” and that with the video evidence would find enough to charge him, especially if emergency medical or surgery was required. It’s not as if the cops would be preserving the crime scene for us to walk through like the homicide tv shows.
Assuming the police did their jobs, we would do ours and prosecute it.
Back in 1979 I got hired as a laborer on a powerline crew. Someone carelessly swung a large cable around on my third day on che crew and it hit the foreman right across the face, hard, it was a cold day, and it must have hurt a lot, broke his glasses. Without hesitation, and maybe because I was the closest to him, he punched me right in the mouth.
This guy was about 5'7" tall, 160 pounds, grew up in an Irish gang a block from Harlem, was probably in a fist fight every day of his life then joined the Army as a Green Beret and saw combat in Vietnam. He was also a nationally ranked handball player. The punch felt like someone had hit me with a sledge hammer.
Back in the show up area at the end of the day a supervisor asked me what happened to my face, told him I walked into an open tool door on the truck. That was just life back then. No anger or drama, no retaliation, didn't go to HR, no knives or guns and after all was said and done we became friends later in life.
something tells me yanks are soft
this is a everyday scenario in london/UK/Ireland
people saying omg this is lethal force etc jesus harden up ladies
Peasants without freedom of speech should not talk about free people. Go bow to your king peasant. You don't have rights. Focus on gaining rights for you and your fellow peasants before you worry about how "soft" the rest of the world is.
Watch me write something you would be jailed for in your country. Western culture is superior to other cultures especially any middle eastern/muslim culture that demands women be covered up in public. I can write that over here in freedomland without fear of government reprisal. You would literally be jailed for expressing the same sentiment in your country. British people are literally the softest people on planet Earth.
Harden up and fight your government. Depose your king. But until then realize you are living in a society based around regality and aristocracy. Which would thus place you in the bottom of that social hierarchy, hence why I refer to British people who disrespect the USA as peasants, because you are.
Just wondering, not to discredit, because you’re much more of an expert than me even if you temporarily filled in, how long did you handle this stuff? Did you make the decision to move forward with a case, or would you handle it once that decision was made?
And you don’t view this as mutual combat, in which case both might get some drunk and disorderly i imagine (MAYBE even in Vegas?), but rather a crime by the ‘little’ (relatively speaking lol) guy? Even if as some have pointed out ITT Nevada is Stand Your Ground?
I would expect vegas with its security systems would easily id and detain the ‘little’ and that with the video evidence would find enough to charge him, especially if emergency medical or surgery was required.
The rest of my comments are irrelevant to the initial argument (little guy did nothing wrong [legally]), but I think you’re overestimating the Casino’s willingness to get involved and investigate this themselves and/or willingly turn over security tape in something so trivial as this.
Assuming the police did their jobs, we would do ours and prosecute it.
An important qualification lol (not that I’m switching arguments, just a funny aside).
But, you’re the expert, thanks for the reply.
