Is pio solver worth it if I already own GTO +
I've been trying out the free version of Pio, utilizing it to nodelock different mistakes and I have really enjoyed using it. I'm considering purchasing it despite already owning GTO +, however I wanted some advice on whether this was a good idea.
I do see it as necessary to purchase it at some point as it is the flagship solver with superior features in comparison to GTO +.
The vast majority of my study is geared towards solver work so I'll definitely get use out of it. Especially as I plan to be in this game for a long time to come.
Thanks!
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Based on your statements, yes.
Are my statements correct though?
thanks
There is nothing incorrect about your op. Your post is correct, and Brokenstars post is correct.
I mostly use gto+ and flopzilla. I mostly play live and based on my familiarity with cr ev it helps me develop mental tools for my
“exploitative” play style.
Piosolver is the gold standard for NLHE solvers. Once you wrote that you primarily plan on studying via solver work and that you enjoy solver work , Piosolver becomes a must buy.
I do not primarily study through solver work. I caution against studying exclusively through solver work. That is only one paradigm of play.
thanks I find your answer really interesting and helpful. May I ask why you would suggest one shouldn't study primarily via solver work, could you not study exploitative play also via solvers with nodelocking? Is there more to online play then just optimal play + adjustments to opponent imbalances, or in other words exploits?
thanks I find your answer really interesting and helpful. May I ask why you would suggest one shouldn't study primarily via solver work, could you not study exploitative play also via solvers with nodelocking? Is there more to online play then just optimal play + adjustments to opponent imbalances, or in other words exploits?
Hi! First I want to point out that I typically use words in a precise manner in terms of word choice. I did not say that you should not primarily study via solver work. I said you shouldn’t study exclusively via solver work.
No, there is not more to online play than just optimal play + adjustments to opponents imbalances, provided you assign a very liberal definition to what opponents imbalances means.
One thing to keep in mind is that no human alive can play optimal poker. When you decide your only goal is to play “optimal poker” over understanding a number of tools that may increase your overall understanding of games in general, including psychological ones, you limit your overall potential as a gambler. Which is what poker is.
Where do you suggest I could start with the goal of expanding my horizons and learning these different aspects of the game, and could you give me an example of one of the tools you mentioned to do so?
Thanks for all the help!
Where do you suggest I could start with the goal of expanding my horizons and learning these different aspects of the game, and could you give me an example of one of the tools you mentioned to do so?
Thanks for all the help!
When I was a teenager I played magic the gathering at a local store with unusually tough competition. One of the players was a world champion and 4 or 5 of them played mtg games with thousands, sometimes tens of thousands of dollars on the line. And so I learned many things about that game and serious card players most people don’t learn.
In magic the gathering hypergeometric distributions are a very important tool. In NLHE, hypergeometric distributions don’t carry the same weight mostly because the card population isn’t as variable and there is less planning around synergies. A lot of those calculations are better done with probability and monte carlo simulations in NLHE.
Still, hypergeometric distributions is a different tool than solvers that can have applications in games like triple draw lowvall and 7 card stud.
So one suggestion I’d have is to play a different card game that has different lingo and a different toolset.
Alright thanks
