1/3 nit limp/min3b
1/3 nit limp/min3b

1/3 nit limp/min3b

1/3 9 handed
tables full of nits tonight

Villain is mid aged black woman. She is very passive player, plays her hands face up.

Hero and villain has been in couple pots, v limp/calls flop check/folds all of them.

Effective stacks 300

Preflop V limps in EP, Hero in MP is dealt TQ opens to 15, V clicks it to 35. H calls. Her range is literally QQ+/AK (maybe we should've folded?)

Pot 74
Flop A95
V checks Hero checks
Her range still hasn't changed.

Turn Q
V checks, H checks
Her range is leaning towards KK??
Would you try bluffing here?

River 5
V bets 20
H???

20 May 2025 at 10:35 PM
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Preflop, you are getting odds to call with a hand that plays OK against a strong range. Probably fold river.


Fold pre and by that I mean even before the 3 bet. No need to be opening QT there.

As played, fold the river.


I would raise QTs, and limping behind is usually better than folding.


I think she’s more weighted to KK and AA than the other 2 hands. Probably supposed to fold to the limp raise but it’s a nice price.

Not trying to bluff fish off what we hope is kings, ace or no ace. And she easily can play aces or queens this way.


Folding this hand to the minraise would be bad. This hand is about 21% against AA/KK. If you make more than a pair, you might be able to stack her.


by deuceblocker m

Folding this hand to the minraise would be bad. This hand is about 21% against AA/KK. If you make more than a pair, you might be able to stack her.

In my experience what happens is we flop top pair, she bets a billion and we fold.


Given you read, calling the preflop 3-bet is really awful, especially only 100BB effective.


Getting 2.4 -1 immediate odds with villain face up, I would call. Definitely calling with 22.


I'd mostly fold the first time preflop, unless in late-ish MP and I think there is a decent chance I could overlimp in for cheap.

Facing the minnish raise, we're getting IO of about 15:1 in position against a likely big pear. This would probably be a borderline setmining operation, but I doubt it is enough to call with this hand.

Also checking back flop.

I agree her range is really tilted to KK on the turn. She could easily be slowplaying the flop, but when the board starts getting drawy on the turn and her first trap attempt didn't work it is highly doubtful she is slowplaying any more. But it will take two bets to get her off KK (our story of checking back an Ace on the flop doesn't add up, which is why I often do so), so are we prepared to do that. We also have a showdownable hand at this point just in case our preflop range is off (which it sometimes can be).

What's our thinking on the river? Are we thinking of paying off due to pod odds? If she's a nit, I wouldn't. Meanwhile I'm not convinced a raise will get her off KK enough. She did a good job of playing as small a pot as possible to get here to pay off that bet, the draws busted, and our line makes no sense (what, we have 5x here?).

GcluelessNLnoobG


by deuceblocker m

Folding this hand to the minraise would be bad. This hand is about 21% against AA/KK. If you make more than a pair, you might be able to stack her.

But we almost never realize that equity, we rarely flop well enough to make it past the flop, the IO are maxed out at a fairly sucky 15:1, and we're also completely ignoring RIO (the times we make an awesome hand but she makes an awesomer hand). Admittedly position on her face up hand plus the chance to possibly steal the occasional pot make this tempting, but I doubt they are enough here.

GcluelesspreflopnoobG


Grunch:

PRE - if you know she likes to limp pre and will check-fold flop, just over-limp with hands like QTs. She's not folding, and you're not folding out enough players behind to want to go multi-way. When she min-clicks it, I probably call, because it's a min-click, but if we're sure she's only raising premium PP's, I might find a fold.

FLOP - Check is fine.

TURN - I'd probably bet when she checks twice and we make 2nd pair on a card that brings in a BDFD.

RIVER - She's betting 20 into 74? I mean...I probably call for that price, but won't be surprised if she has us beat.


Compounded errors. Hero is MP(LJ) 3 of the 5 players left to act will have position postflop. Calling the min3! creates an SPR of less than 4.

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