BB defense 8 16
8/16 8 handed. player limps UTG , TAGish player raises, 2 cold calls, folds to me in BB I call with A5 diamonds, UTG calls. 5 BB
Flop comes J82 one diamond, giving me 2 BD draws and an overcard. I check, UTG checks, TAG bets, 1 calls, fold, I call(?), fold. 6.5 BB
Turn is the J of Diamonds. I check, TAG bets, fold, I raise......
7 Replies
EDIT Flop was JT2 not J82
Love it
I hate it.
I would fold the flop. You have a TAG betting into 4 players on a JT2 board. Your Ace outs are sketch. The pot isn't big enough to try to go runner runner. You're OOP so you can't guarantee getting paid off properly if you hit and your not ending the betting on the flop.
What are you trying to represent on the turn? Would you CR a Jack on the flop normally? Would you slow play a set or two pair? The UTG has shown strength betting mw on too streets. What hands are you trying to get him to fold? JT2 flop intersects big time with his range. Maybe he folds a smaller pair but that's a very small part of his range. If he is weak tight I suppose bombs away but I'm never folding to this raise with anything that I am betting the turn with.
I hate it. I would fold the flop. You have a TAG betting into 4 players on a JT2 board. Your Ace outs are sketch. The pot isn't big enough to try to go runner runner. You're OOP so you can't guarantee getting paid off properly if you hit and your not ending the betting on the flop. What are you trying to represent on the turn? Would you CR a Jack on the flop normally? Would you
I questioned my flop call hence the question mark, not sure it was a good call. UTG was passive almost never CRing here. V was UTG+2(MP) if I wasn't clear.
For the turn raise I want him to think Set or a weak suited jack, again why I posted for feedback. As played, you are calling turn?
Jx CRs the flop. i would assume TT 3bets pre. would never fold to this CR with any pair i bet the turn with.
flop call is pretty bad too. JTx boards are bad for peels.
Yes I am calling the turn with the picked up diamond draw. I would CR a rivered diamond and donk/fold a rivered Ace.
Spoiler
He shrug called, telling me he has at least a pair and wouldn't fold to a river bet bluff if I whiffed. River was a brick, I checked he checked behind and shows AKo. I corrected the flop to show the GS he had.
He did the turn shrug call later in the session with a 94s SB call against my raise with flopped bottom pair when he picked up a GS on the turn and rivered the straight against my TPTK.
I also fold flop.
I don’t like the turn c/r at all. I assume that most players will c/r most if not all of their Jx hands on the flop, so a turn c/r looks much more like a random hand that picked up a diamond draw than a value hand. And that’s a serious problem because that’s exactly what you have.
