Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
its insane. I mean, you could just not talk politics with your family. or just bond over your shared love of murdering Muslims? like I am pretty sure your families are split between people who voted for Bush to murder kids in Iraq versus people who voted for Kamala to murder kids in Palestine. find the common ground guys.
Just make sure you don't ask your son to check the wi-fi of your favorite website and you should be good.
lol
I agree with him, and you are a deeply racist person. In fairness your definition of racism is limited to people using the N word and verbally abusing others because of their skin colour. Making sweeping negative generalisations about people from other places isn't racism, according to you.
Like you with [strike]Jews[/strike] Israelis eh?
its insane. I mean, you could just not talk politics with your family. or just bond over your shared love of murdering Muslims? like I am pretty sure your families are split between people who voted for Bush to murder kids in Iraq versus people who voted for Kamala to murder kids in Palestine. find the common ground guys.
I'm genuinely impressed how you manage to shoehorn your favourite topic of dead kids into literally every subject on Earth
well for one... he thinks i'm a racist trumper as well and i'm neither... so we already know his radar is not objectiveyou can't change your parents and like them or not, that's an important bond even if you don't personally get along with them most of time or they are difficult to be around, you can even become a better person by recognizing some of the things they do that bot
If either of my parents behaved in public te way Gorgonian said his dad did then I'd break contact also . I wouldn't be happy over it but you can't be around people like that, always wondering if they're gonna act out.
On the other hand some parents should count themselves lucky that their spiteful small minded offspring have severed contact. Imagine being so consumed by political differences that you would never talk to your parents again. It amazes me that people take politics that seriously.
Even if you think politics is very important, if you don't consider your own blood the most important thing of all you have completly lost at the game of life.
Besides given that all behavioural attitudes and preferences are highly inheritable, whatever you dislike in your parents is in you as well, hating your parents is hating yourself and your kids at the end, there is no escaping genetical reality.
It's far better to do it in reverse and learn to like and accept whatever you and your blood relatives are as inherently good, and build your morals around that
Even if you think politics is very important, if you don't consider your own blood the most important thing of all you have completly lost at the game of life.Besides given that all behavioural attitudes and preferences are highly inheritable, whatever you dislike in your parents is in you as well, hating your parents is hating yourself and your kids at the end, there is no esc
That’s not remotely how genetics works and yet again you’re a fool.
Sure, that sounds lovely. But hating your dad and treating him like a zoo animal will certainly give you a sense of control, but building a cage out of anger doesn’t just keep him out, it locks you in as well.People go through dark chapters, say awful things, and sometimes lose themselves, but cutting off the one person who is more you than anyone else on this planet should tak
LEt's be clear, that's a rave ON THE LEFT, and it's obvious that's the case, leftism is inherently deeply inimical of family as a concept.
The entire project of leftism is about building a state that can substitute family in all the roles family had in life when the state was almost non existant in daily life.
A relative is just a person. They can be good, decent, alright, unremarkable, bad, shitty, horrible, horrifying and the list continues.
There is no one-size-fits-all norm that can deal with that successfully. Simply by noting that some have parents what would die for them while others have parents that kill them, we can easily see that to try and boil that relationship down to a single norm would be beyond stupid. It also puts a serious dent in notions of magical bonds or attempts at extending biological imperatives into morals.
For your own children we can reasonably argue you have a special responsibility, due to having caused their existence. Other than that, it is not the business of anybody else how you deal with relatives or whether you want to have contact with them or not.
LEt's be clear, that's a rave ON THE LEFT, and it's obvious that's the case, leftism is inherently deeply inimical of family as a concept.
The entire project of leftism is about building a state that can substitute family in all the roles family had in life when the state was almost non existant in daily life.
This is Leftism in a nutshell. That's why they utterly hate the rapidly growing Homeschool movement.
Even if you think politics is very important, if you don't consider your own blood the most important thing of all you have completly lost at the game of life.
I agree with the sentiment here, but I think it is a vast overstatement.
Besides given that all behavioural attitudes and preferences are highly inheritable, whatever you dislike in your parents is in you as well, hating your parents is hating yourself and your kids at the end, there is no escaping genetical reality.
I'm almost certain that the bolded is demonstrably false.
It's far better to do it in reverse and learn to like and accept whatever you and your blood relatives are as inherently good, and build your morals around that
Short of physical or verbal abuse, I think maintaining contact with blood relatives is important. Having said that, I don't necessarily recommend building one's morals based on the beliefs of your blood relatives. (Besides, not all blood relatives will share the same moral values anyway.)
I’m of the belief that these ideas are not dichotomous. Also, I think that if we really want to preserve moral realism we can just posit extra entities in our theoretical construction. The “cost” to our theory might be worth it to many people. Only in very ontologically reductionist frameworks would there be some kind of contradiction, and I suspect most people don’t want to en
Essentially, most folks don't recognize the logical implications of their worldview.
well for one... he thinks i'm a racist trumper as well and i'm neither... so we already know his radar is not objective
This appears to be about me, and if it is, I'm once again baffled by how much wrong you can squeeze into one post. I neither called you a racist trumper nor referred to you as one in this post.
Did you even read where I said they were the ones that broke the bond with me?
i can't imagine how awful it would be to ever even consider breaking contact with them and outside of actual physical or sexual abuse i don't think that's ever the right decision to make
You can have that opinion, but for me, my life improved 10,000% percent when I cut them out. And they were an active bad influence on my child, which is more important to me than anything else.
i'm sure there's more to it but it's super sad and depressing whenever you come across people who do things like "i'm never inviting my parents over for xmas again because they wanted to carve the turkey" and "my dad wouldn't get vaxxed so i cut him out of my life" or in this case "they are trumpers so f them"
None of those are even remotely close to the reasons I literally cited, but you chose to say those instead of what I actually said. Ask yourself why.
And also, as usual gfys.
Just make sure you don't ask your son to check the wi-fi of your favorite website and you should be good.
?? Did you think that was included as a reason I cut him off? Or that or was an exhaustive list? Would you like me to spend the next pages detailing his racist and hate filled outbursts in front of my kid? Can you at least try to not be disingenuous?
Jfc
Lol, if you think I'm going to waste any time or energy debating seriously with someone who thinks 2000 year old fairy tales are a true historical account of anything, you are even more deluded than I thought.
So, you were posting in bad-faith when you asked me tell you in what ways your characterization of my post had major flaws.
One admission I must make is that I was deluded into thinking you might have something intelligent to say on the topic of religion.
If either of my parents behaved in public te way Gorgonian said his dad did then I'd break contact also . I wouldn't be happy over it but you can't be around people like that, always wondering if they're gonna act out.
And this was just a summary of the last time I went in public. I wa's awful every time and I'd obviously put up with it for years. I was the one trying to make an effort with them for the last actual decade+. They didn't really want anything to do with me either since I didn't stay home on the farm like they wanted.
But the usual clowns are lining up here to take potshots because I did it bc of politics, displaying their normal level of poor comprehension and general dbag-ness in the process.
And I could easily fill up multiple full pages of this forum with their awful hate and racism, and how it affected me and my child. I could tell stories about how he would come home from their house crying because my mom wouldn't stop grabbing him and shaking him. I could tell stories about how my son was learning that "real men don't put up with how [my wife] talks to [me]" from my dad. I could tell stories about how my dad would go out into the field and start shooting at trees every time we would come visit rather than be around us, and how one shot hit the house while everyone was there. Pages and pages.
But tell me again how dumb I am because "you cut off your parents because they didn't want to get the vax!" I cut them off in like 2018 you buffoons.
