1/2/5: How do you get nits to pay you when you’re a nit yourself?

1/2/5: How do you get nits to pay you when you’re a nit yourself?

Lately I’ve been struggling with a common problem: I have a nitty image, and so do my opponents — and we just can’t seem to give each other money unless it’s a pure cooler.

Two hands from a recent 1/2/5 session:

Hand 1: Flush gets no love

1/2/5, about $900 eff

MP nitreg opens to $20
Hero (AcJc) flats CO to keep whale in
BTN flats, BB whale flats

Flop ($80): Tc6c6d
Checks to me, I bet $25 — only BTN (tight reg) calls.

Turn ($130): 4c
I bet $75, he calls again.

River ($280): 2d
I bet $150, and he tanks forever… then folds 6h face-up.

Like… bro. You flopped trips, why fold? The same guy stationed the whale in two back to back hands with much worse so the table was surprised to see him lay down 6h, and my image just got much worse.

Hand 2: KK disguised, still no takers

2 hands later. Same villain. I open $15 EP with KK, he 3bets to $55 two seats to my left (JJ+/AQ+ obv).

I flat, planning to underrep my hand and trap. If I 4! here, he probably folds QQ too.

Flop ($110): Qs8s2d
I check, he bets $50, I call.

Turn ($210): 4c
I check again to keep my hand disguised, he checks back.

River ($210): 5d
I lead $125, and… he folds again.

Not even a curious call. Like the moment I show aggression, the hand’s over.

Question: How do you extract value from these kinds of players when:

1. You’re known to play tight/nitty yourself
2. They overfold to strength
3. Even when you disguise your hand, they sniff it out and click fold

Should I be leading turn more often? Betting smaller? Or just go full galaxy brain and start bluffing so they call me one day?

19 May 2025 at 04:09 AM
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By definition if you all play the same way you won't win in the long term.

If people are over folding, you bluff more, right?

And if there are there are loose passives then you target those with your value bets.


Holy ****, if someone folded trips afraid of my flush I would bluff him relentlessly.


Just bet every street every hand against this guy.


we have asian people that play like this lol the games feel like you're playing in a funeral home... one time they had a 9 handed game where it was folded to SB for a blind v blind chop 7 hands in a row and dealer called house because no one was playing. change tables/casinos immediately


by Stupidbanana

we have asian people that play like this lol the games feel like you're playing in a funeral home... one time they had a 9 handed game where it was folded to SB for a blind v blind chop 7 hands in a row and dealer called house because no one was playing. change tables/casinos immediately

I kinda love this.

you could get a group of your friends, and play for hours chopping every hand, and basically get free drinks while you chat and banter, and the house makes nothing.


If people are overfolding thinking you're a nit the easy counter is to play more hands/bluff more. I think in Hand 1 your turn bet should be much larger - it's a board where either you have a very strong hand or you don't, so sizing 75 isn't really purposeful. From his perspective on the river there's not many bluffs you could even have - maybe you could have 78/89dd but everything else got there. Not sure if your image would even help how this hand played out assuming he folded a bad 6. Hand 2 - I like the call of the 3b. Now you can develop more of a 4betting range in this spot if he sees you as super nitty - if you had say 66/QJ/KQ/etc type hands 4betting here would be the way to go. Not much you could do postflop here - looks like he had next to nothing. I don't think we can draw conclusions from these two hands about what he thinks about you - I think in Hand 2 he just had nothing and decided to give up. Really though you should experiment with widening your 3b range greatly in position, considering 4betting some marginal hands that normally you might fold assuming they think your 4b range is KK+. It's a never ending game of adjustments but there's always a counter.


by 6betfold

Lately I’ve been struggling with a common problem: I have a nitty image, and so do my opponents — and we just can’t seem to give each other money unless it’s a pure cooler.

Changing your own image takes a _lot_ less effort than you'd think.

by 6betfold

Two hands from a recent 1/2/5 session:

Hand 1: Flush gets no love

1/2/5, about $900 eff

MP nitreg opens to $20
Hero (AcJc) flats CO to keep whale in
BTN flats, BB whale flats

Flop ($80): Tc6c6d
Checks to me, I bet $25 — only BTN (tight reg) calls.

Turn ($130): 4c
I bet $75, he calls again.

River ($280): 2d
I bet $150, and he tanks forever… then folds 6h face-up.

What are your bluffs here, and what are your value?

This is just a super difficult board for 65 to be good after a competent value better bets three times. The reason most 1-2 players won't fold much is that enough of other 1-2 players are bad enough to call ATo pre and then bad enough bet it 3 times.

So if you can't bet bad, you have to bluff better ... like you need to turn some AcX into a bluff on the river (but even then you have to "bluff" bet AcKx on on flop knowing you'll mostly get folds from worse and will be betting again later if called and the flush "hits").

by 6betfold

2 hands later. Same villain. I open $15 EP with KK, he 3bets to $55 two seats to my left (JJ+/AQ+ obv).

I flat, planning to underrep my hand and trap. If I 4! here, he probably folds QQ too.

Just pure 4bet AK? Open and pure 4bet A4s? Find other playable hands that you wouldn't call his 3bet with, and randomly 4bet those.

People overfolding preflop is the easiest problem to have. You don't have to go straight from EP ranges to BTN, but make stuff a bit wider and see what happens. It can be a boring game, where you look for the exit immediately when called but it should be super low variance.

As I said above though, if you play vs. people enough that they almost have to pay attention then I've found that once they think you aren't a nit anymore it's _much_ harder to convince them you aren't trying to bluff every hand.

by 6betfold

Flop ($110): Qs8s2d
I check, he bets $50, I call.

Turn ($210): 4c
I check again to keep my hand disguised, he checks back.

River ($210): 5d
I lead $125, and… he folds again.

He can have a decent amount of air here, so the fact he folded river doesn't mean much IMO.

Also wouldn't call your turn check "disguise" here, it would be weird to x/c flop and lead this turn IMO (your range shouldn't interact with the 4c more than his does) and I would assume you are value or bluff heavy depending on how often you are doing that kind of thing.


the solution is bluff more right? trying to get paid by strong hands isnt the right way to think about the problem...


Stop being so nitty.


Don’t be a nit.


by 6betfold

Hand 1: Flush gets no love

1/2/5, about $900 eff

MP nitreg opens to $20
Hero (AcJc) flats CO to keep whale in
BTN flats, BB whale flats

Flop ($80): Tc6c6d
Checks to me, I bet $25 — only BTN (tight reg) calls.

Turn ($130): 4c
I bet $75, he calls again.

River ($280): 2d
I bet $150, and he tanks forever… then folds 6h face-up.

Vs said villian you bet much smaller on river for value and you bet much bigger on river as a bluff until he adjusts. Also I'd go bigger on turn - 50-60% pot is too small. If he's calling $75 - he's calling $110-$150. As played i'd just bet $50 on river and try and get a crying call from a 10. He might even think it's weak and raise a 6 so he puts the money in for you. You gotta play more tricky vs the nits. If I had AcX or KcX i'd go $150-$200 on river and with the flush i'd go smaller if that makes sense. Use blockers so you don't overbluff

by 6betfold

Hand 2: KK disguised, still no takers2 hands later. Same villain. I open $15 EP with KK, he 3bets to $55 two seats to my left (JJ+/AQ+ obv).I flat, planning to underrep my hand and trap. If I 4! here, he probably folds QQ too.Flop ($110): Qs8s2dI check, he bets $50, I call.Turn ($210): 4cI check again to keep my hand disguised, he checks back.River ($210): 5dI lead $125, and

I don't advocate just flatting KK but if you are gonna do it on the off chance - you played it fine. Looks like he had a hand that missed. Against this villian i'd just 4b/fold if he's that big of a nit. As played i'd go smaller on the river again. He clearly has nothing - so you want a crying call from something bad and I doubt you get that from JJ. Make it $50-$100 just to make it really hard for him to fold anything but pure air.

by 6betfold

Question: How do you extract value from these kinds of players when:

1. You’re known to play tight/nitty yourself
2. They overfold to strength
3. Even when you disguise your hand, they sniff it out and click fold

1. It's fine to play tight/nitty in games that have high rake - and low stakes games are too loose in general. If you play with the same villians all the time you are going to need to mix in a bluff here and there, and show the bluffs when you get called. Don't just muck like half the villians do.

2. You use blockers to bluff them. Start mixing in overbets with boards that are good for your range. If you are bad at doing this practice on some online sites at stakes NL100+ because most of your villians will start getting very good at these stakes.

3. You clearly aren't disguising your hand - or you don't bluff enough, or you are getting unlucky. People have to have something to call you. Most of the time they have air. Start using good boards for your bets instead of pure hand strength. (You 3b 6h5h in CO vs HJ open. He calls - AsKh4s - he checks you bet half pot he calls - turn 9d - he checks - you bet 70% pot, he calls - river 7h - you need to bet huge/jam) If you get called and you show 6h5h there ain't no way he's folding to you again.

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