Vegas Cash Game Bomb Pots

Well, sure. But based on some of the comments in this thread its been mentioned over and over they just dont know how to play and have no interest. I mean, im a good low level NLHE player and generally win in these games. While im also a pretty good PLO player and my edge is much bigger skill wise against these players. However, if I am winning good for the session and see no reason to gamble with them im out in a tough spot.

But for reasons mentioned its advantageous for me to play and give action. I think what pig and others are saying is partially about this, but also a bit of stubbornness that they sat at a holdem table and want to only play holdem. And they're unwilling to learn a different game.

Perhaps im wrong and its simply number 1

My approach to these is this. When asked if I wanna play I say no. If enough say yes I play too. Then I am looking to flop the nuts or fold.

Winning good is irrelevant unless you mean you're super deep with good players on your left who are also super deep.

People are still terrible at plo. People are terrible at double board plo. I can't imagine how bad NL players are at DB PLO. Up or down you definitely should want to play with these people. Sure sometimes you're gonna get screwed in a big pot. So what.

It’s incredible how many times I’ve seen someone put in their whole stack with two pair on one board and next to nothing on the other board.

The problem is the nuts changes on every street.

A simpler alternative in the U.S. for those new to Omaha not going broke in bomb pots would be a Double Board 10/20 Limit Omaha High bomb pot.

Planet Hollywood also has a $1/$1 PLO $100-$200 buy in cash game that runs sometimes.

when I was there last week it weirdly only fired up once. flamingo woudl haev that game every fri and sat back in the wsop summers. no cap tho so people bought in for like 500-1k

Sitting in the Venetian $1-$3 NLHE game with DBB this morning I just had a guy call my $240 river bet thinking the three hearts in his hand were good for a flush on one of the board with two hearts.

Most of the higher stakes games in Vegas that do dealer change bomb pots also have an agreed upon no seat change policy. I can assure you if I or other regs happen to have a good seat for the bomb pots, it is random chance and not because we're "sleazy regs". I've not once seen someone try to angle their way to a better bomb pots seat.

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While funny and good for you, this is the kind of stuff that’s bad for poker especially at the lowest limits.

The guy came to play NLHE and lost his stack playing a game (plo) and style (dbbp) he never meant to come play and obviously doesn’t understand.

That’s going to leave a bad taste in his mouth.

This is why it’s dumb for Venetian to run them by default in every game. Sure that guy could have opted out but there’s peer pressure if he’s one of the only ones to sit out bomb pots.

Double board bomb pots are used in time games to pay for time usually or a change of pace. They aren’t suppose to be used to prey on novices and recs who has little to no experience with plo.

In this same vein, moving seats at the same table is one of the worst things for low stakes poker. This happens to me multiple times per session, and every time an obvious reg is sick of me 3betting him and moves I call it out. If you don’t like your table position I have zero problem with finding a new table, but you should have a very good reason to move seats and no one should be able to do it twice or more (unless they are the obv spot at the table).

I've seen people sit out most of the time and then play their button and sometimes cutoff at both aria and wynn in the 5/5 rock game.

I'm not even sure doing this makes sense. Maybe at some tougher tables it does but if you're a good bomb pot player you're probably winning from all positions considering how poorly a lot of people play them, especially in PLO.

Everyone I've seen do this was a huge nit, the seat hopping type and not actually good at poker. It still might not be +ev in a vacuum but they thought they were grinding out a small edge. If you have to do grimy **** like this to get a tiny edge you should find something better to do with your time than poker.

I played the $2-$2 PLO DBB at PH last night. Two games running, buy-in $200 to $500. Fun, but not crazy. I ended up playing both tables over the course of the night. I’d say most of the players in those games didn’t put enough pressure on their opponents with big hands that could free roll their foes before the river. One crotchety OMC criticized me for check raising with a pot size bet with 99A2 on flops of J95 and 522 because I didn’t have the nuts on either board. He folded a 52, lol.

Sounds like fun -- will have to give that a try at PH. I get the fold if he didn't have anything on the top board -- not terrible depending on stack sizes and number of players.

Confirmation that you're doing something right when a crotchety old geezer complains about the way you play.

Assuming a 9 handed table (maybe its 8) whats the pot bet on the flop assuming all players are in for an ante?

Depends how much the ante is. On the $2/$2 I'd expect it would be $16/$18 depending on if its 8 or 9 handed ($2x8 or 9).

They play 8-handed and let you open for $20 on the flop.

You can debate the fold depending on his exact holding, stack depth etc but crying about someone check raising him is lol

Anyone update who offers bomb pots at NL now ?

Still only Venetian