Why do people believe in conspiracies?

Why do people believe in conspiracies?

First things first, I am talking about the regular folks who genuinely believe in conspiracies, not the ones who exploit

08 June 2025 at 02:22 PM
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by Trolly McTrollson

That's not what he said.

Is that your other account?


by Luckbox Inc

Is that your other account?

Nope


by Luciom
by WPNdonk

Well it's no longer a conspiracy theory once there is strong evidence. It exists as a conspiracy theory when you have to make assumptions. I'm sure at one point in Nazi Germany jews being taken to camps etc was only a conspiracy theory.

Nah the camps were a very well known entity since inception, but the idea people were tortured, experimented upon, mass murdered and so on insid

Interesting you were there?

Thats nothing close to the historical accounts I've read.


by WPNdonk

Well it's no longer a conspiracy theory once there is strong evidence. It exists as a conspiracy theory when you have to make assumptions.

I'm sure at one point in Nazi Germany jews being taken to camps etc was only a conspiracy theory.

I didn’t say strong evidence. It just has to be evidence that raises the probability such that the conspiracy theory is either has parity with or exceeds the credence of the “official story”.


by checkraisdraw

I didn’t say strong evidence. It just has to be evidence that raises the probability such that the conspiracy theory is either has parity with or exceeds the credence of the “official story”.

You don't need that comon.

It's more than enough for the official story to have cracks.

If the narrative is fabricated even in part then "conspirators" are right, they don't have to prove what the actual factual reality is (!!!!!)


by WPNdonk

Interesting you were there

Thats nothing close to the historical accounts I've read.

My grandfather was there (as an Italian soldier that got caught when we flipped pro allies in 1943 and he was on active duty with German soldiers in the Balkans)


by Luciom

You don't need that comon.

It's more than enough for the official story to have cracks.

If the narrative is fabricated even in part then "conspirators" are right, they don't have to prove what the actual factual reality is (!!!!!)

Not really. If someone says “Jews did 9/11” they’re not right if it turns out that the official narrative leaves out some ancillary part of the story that makes the US look bad.


by checkraisdraw

Not really. If someone says “Jews did 9/11” they’re not right if it turns out that the official narrative leaves out some ancillary part of the story that makes the US look bad.

oh sure, i was talking about "gmvnt is lying to us here", say the "epstein didn't kill himself" theory.


by Luciom

You don't need that comon.

It's more than enough for the official story to have cracks.

If the narrative is fabricated even in part then "conspirators" are right, they don't have to prove what the actual factual reality is (!!!!!)

You seem to have a lot of faith in the competency of the govt. Lying because they haven't been able to figure out an answer either doesn't prove a conspiracy exists. I mean we are talking about an outfit here that regularly accidentally executes the wrong/innocent people lol


by WPNdonk

Well it's no longer a conspiracy theory once there is strong evidence. It exists as a conspiracy theory when you have to make assumptions.

I'm sure at one point in Nazi Germany jews being taken to camps etc was only a conspiracy theory.

The conspiracy theory is the holocaust was made up so you're a sheep if you believe the camps existed. That's part of why conspiratorial; thinking is so worthless; it can be used to argue for something and the exact opposite equally convincingly.


by Luciom

oh sure, i was talking about "gmvnt is lying to us here", say the "epstein didn't kill himself" theory.

ok but then your principle doesn’t work.

if being on parity is too much of a bar to clear then we just need to move the threshold down. say it needs to be 25% vs 75% or something. but it’s not going to be that a .01% credence in a conspiracy should be enough to say that the conspiracy is correct.


by Luciom

You don't need that comon.

It's more than enough for the official story to have cracks.

If the narrative is fabricated even in part then "conspirators" are right, they don't have to prove what the actual factual reality is (!!!!!)

Part of the issue is the idea that the offical story is some sort of correct thing to believe. It's not reasonable to believe governments/instiutions/etc just because of what they say. Nor is it reasonable to believe they are always lying.

A better default position is that they are saying what they think is in their interest. That aligns with any inconvenient truths largely to the extent of how much they think they can get away with ignoring those truths. Individuals are a bit different because some people value the truth highly (or not).

None of which is a reason to believe bollocks.

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