Questionable spot with suited Broadway early in a tournament

Are you saying the LJ opened for 2X, there was a call behind, and you are contemplating coming in behind, in position to the two other players?

I can't see raising here with such a weak hand. Calling doesn't seem great, you could get squeezed by the blinds. I'd say fold.

Yep thanks, that's basically it. I would assume at least a call but getting squeezed was on my mind as well. Curious to see if anyone else thinks differently or it's just probably a fold

You say you are the CO and then you say the CO called the raise...

I would be calling this with KTs and fold KTo. We are likely going to be in position, although BTN could call. I like suited hands when there are a bunch of players.

Yeah, clear that up. What stage of the tournament is this? What's the buyin? Live or online?

Presuming it's pretty early if a starting stack is almost 60BB.

Jam > fold IMO.

But all the details are important.

Sorry I guess that would make the original raiser utg + 2

I am the cut off

This is indeed early like level 5 of a nine-handed $600 WSOP event yesterday

How deep is the caller?

Looked at a few stack depths on the solver. At 20BB we pure shove. At 25BB we mix all three of shove/3-bet-call. At 30BB we split 2/3 call - 1/3 3-bet.

Now, the solver outputs assume all players have equal stacks, which is not the case. So you gotta adjust a bit for that. I think any of the 3 above options are OK, but I lean toward the more aggressive ones.

Here's how I would decide this:

* If anyone behind me is aggressive, I would fold. Also, if the opener is a mega nit, I would fold.
* If I feel like the opener is light, or if people have shown a tendency to fold to 3 bets, I would 3 bet.
* Otherwise, I would call.

All in all, I would lean toward calling because people generally won't respect our 3 bets in a live tournament and it's just too strong a hand to fold. It plays well in position and if we flop two pair, trips, a straight, or possibly a flush we will be well placed to extract value from at least one player.

I think shoving is bad with this much. Like Nath said above it's a good move with 20 BBs.

If you look like a nit then you can try 3 bet to 8 and fold to 4 bet to exploit the lack of 4 bet bluff.

Why would you throw away 30% of your stack to exploit something?

It is a 3bet bluff banking on them to fold, with the backup plan getting decent equity retention when called. If you don't expect your raise to get through with enough frequency or they 4 bet wide enough, then you don't 3 bet small with KTs.

The problem with this strategy is that you're just about priced in if they jam, even against a relatively tight range.

Like against the following range which is a reasonable tightish range you have 35% equity. You'd have to be pretty confident in your read that your opponent is a nit to put them on a tight enough range to make the raise-fold strategy viable, and if they're that tight KTs could just be an open fold?

I've been encountering a lot of these sorts of spots in the smaller buy-in WSOP events so far. They're challenging when the opponents are mostly unknowns.

I lean towards jamming if the effective stack's are 20 BB or less and calling if effective stacks are 20-30 BB (against unknowns).

There is absolutely no reason to have called in this spot with 11 orbits left this early in the tournament. I’m guessing because you made a thread, one of the blinds minisqueezed, V called, you talked yourself into being priced in and called, flop came KJ9 with a backdoor royal draw, blind checked, V jammed, you tank called, blind folded, board bricked and you lost to KQ.

This is a fairly marginal spot (i.e. the equities of all 3 options are close to even).

It is fairly early in the tournament, you have less than half of a starting stack and the point of the early levels of the tournament is to accumulate a competitive stack. Therefore, I shove or raise to something fully committing like 15-16BB. The goal is to either take it down right here, double up, or rebuy for a full starting stack.

Oh, if it’s a rebuy, sure

This, as well as a few other responses have been spot on. I could have probably played it more conservatively and called, or even just the three bet fold strategy but decided to rip it and the original raiser called with AA, so I felt a little silly but yes it was still during the rebuy and that was a factor I suppose

In retrospect probably just flatting in position was probably the better move honestly. Thank you everyone for your responses!

You can just snap off the 20bb shoves. KTs have 35% equity against that range and they also have to fold a ton as I would imagine LJ would open more than 12%.

You can also get away from the hand when player behind you jam and LJ calls.