Am I too wide?

Whether you are too wide depends on so many factors 😉

In this hand, I'm definitely defending my straddle w/ 76s (I don't straddle UTG unless everyone is doing it). I think the shove is owning yourself. What worse is calling? AdQx or AdAx? Or, are you trying to get folds from those hands and other small flushes?

WTF, flop is easy shove!
You have the dream flop and you call??? what do you do on a blank, check/call shove???
Flop you're nearly never behind unless they flop set or something, just get the money in good. You win money when they fold tp/overpairs etc. You win money when they call with fd, with anything besides sets.

Yes this is wide. But if you make money playing oop in utg, it's all good.

Tbh, I don't think we can call preflop when stacks are so shallow vs such a big open.

Fold pre. Flop is just a shove even into a tight range. There's dead money with the call in between and you got 14 outs against most hands.

This is too wide from UTG and actually slightly too tight from CO. It's unlikely that you are being sufficiently punished for opening too wide UTG so I wouldn't worry about it too much. That said, there is a lot of good free pre-flop study material out there.

As far as the hand goes, I have to agree with my fellow posters that this spot is a clear check-raise all-in. You have some fold equity here and plenty of real equity if called. If you get someone to fold a better flush draw it is a huge win too.

Pre: Why are we straddling? Is it mandatory? Regardless, Fold Pre. SCs play badly OOP.

Flop: Shove. We have a lot of outs against something like KQ, so even with not much fold equity this is likely profitable.

Turn: As played, yeah shove.

Ya if he turned up KQ id still jam the flop. Remember there is $50 dead caller in between too.

Result:

V2 is wise 😉 LOL.

This is _very_ wide for UTG 8+ handed. It's pretty close to UTG 6max, although even then it's so far from normal I'd be concerned with how you get to 17%. Also all positions positions should be tighter with 3 blinds than 2.

You might be getting away with it against call or fold fish, but if people start 3betting your EP opens without KK+ you are going to have problems.

As to the hand, turn looks like a massive punt. You give almost all hands worse than yours every reason to fold, and you get called a lot when you are drawing to 1 out.

Flop I kind of understand why you don't want to raise, but overcalling is worse than folding. The way to play this spot better than raising is to not be here.

Preflop I kind of understand why you want to play, but you should know that your hand is much worse with 3 villains because it's so much easier to be dominated in multiple ways. Also being OOP and not being the PFR makes it much more difficult to play.
HU I'd happily defend. 3ways I might sigh call anyway. But 4ways it's too bingo-y and while you'll still hit bingo sometimes, it won't be enough long term.

Seems fine in low stakes live. It looks like exactly what he has but a lot of opponents aren't folding top pair or KK-AA

And you deny hands equity that have a diamond but are checking back (probably not a lot of them out there but still)

What do you mean by H actually has a chance to get away? You'd think about folding on the turn? That seems truly insane to me. Even against a 90 year old OMC I'm not folding maybe he has AA or KK with a diamond.

We called pre to go to the flop with 3 SPR and folding on a non paired 3 card flush board....

We check, V2 makes a small bet on a flushing board (or checks too), and a nit rips it in? Yeah, I'm folding my 7 high flush. Because it's just never good here when the nit isn't doing this with a bare Ad or anything not a flush.

The "nit" part of the read is key here. Reg, grinder, gambool type: sure, anything from hi-five the dealer call to sigh-call. The nit overcalled AKs on the button, then called the cbet on Q74 two-tone. Them ripping it when the flush comes in, is no worse than Kxdd, and that's only if they're feeling frisky. It's always Axdd. I'm assuming their prior behavior in this and other sessions has reinforced this read.

We're never good here, and while it's a big mistake if we're wrong, "never" is still less than the 20-25% we need to call here.

Edit, now if V2 did this, calling all day. Because they have more things in their shove range than the nuts.

The hand makes sense until the turn, though I might check raise flop. The turn jam seems like it's only getting called by better hands.

What range are you giving your opponents here?

It's a multi-way pot. Low stakes opponents tend to fast play their thick value when it's multi-way, especially when the board is somewhat wet and dynamic. With a 7 in our hand, it's less likely anyone has a set or 2P here, and doubtful anyone calls our donk jam with just 1P.

I'd expect our opponents to have a lot of 1P hands that are just folding and better flush draws that are snap calling. What can we be targeting for value with this jam? 52dd? AA/KK with one diamond?

That's a super narrow range to target in a multi-way pot.

Just read the rest of the thread. I do like a check jam on the flop, but I'd still expect better flush draws to call often enough that we don't really love getting stacks in.

The read that V3 is an OMC nit is critical. He's likely to mostly fold flop when he misses, mostly raise when he makes a strong top pair or better, and just call with his draws to the nuts. Guys like that tend to call pre more often than raising pre with their suited aces.

Once V2 c-bets large and V3 calls, we shouldn't be too excited to make the second worse flush possible on the turn. We should just be trying to get to showdown as cheaply as possible. If we check and there's action, yes, we should seriously consider folding.

I mean I thought sets are calling, V2 is calling with the naked Ad A-high.. OMC yeahhh idk I have like 10 hours with him maybe

Pretty much anyone who straddles for 6 will call a raise to 20 with that hand. However, straddling got you into a lot of trouble.

a lot of people are saying the turn shove was wrong, but what about a smaller valuey bet size, 1-3 to 1-5 pot size?

The flop is either a shove or a fold. Yes, I said folding is an option. If we are at a table where we expect a shove to get called by both a better hand and a better draw, we’re burning money by continuing.

And as I recall writing 10+ years ago, finding this seemingly ideal flop spot but having to worry about your hand anyway is why you fold preflop.

yeah, bet tiny so the nit can raise(or jam) with the nuts and you can smile and fold.

That’s why it’s a fold preflop. You hate all options on the flop - x call, x raise, or x fold. I think it’s a cry x call because you still have a whale in the hand. Then you check the turn and wait to see what happens. If you see a large bet and a call from a nit, you can easily fold.

losing to a higher flush is a classic example of why suited connectors suck multiway in NL. i learned this the hard way when i found out all they did was cause me to win small pots and lose big pots.

tbh my profit in NL comes from two things

having premium hands and collecting dead money preflop

flopping sets

thats it.