Bye bye Ipoker
Hey, time to move on old buddy.
55-80% equity. Smaller, national Ipoker network
45-55% equity. Ipoker proper
I used to be an ok winner here, never sun run, but was able to make solid 30% in avb 25€ games.
For little over 6 months now it has been like this. Unable to win meaningful all-ins.
These both images are the biggest 55 Pre-flop all-ins from 50k+ hands samples.
Isn't the normal equity realization in mtts is around 60-80%? Overall, I'm zero on other site and 40% on other, 25% total for last 100k hands.
Can someone, please, make sense to me how I get to witness 1/1000 downswing, not once, but twice in 2x50k hands sample? Similar circumstances, same software.
I ran the hands through chatgpt, grok and deepseek and none of them could have explained the amount of EV loss in those 55 hand samples.
Of course it's not unheard of to encounter few 1/100 bad luck events back to back, but how similar the situation is in both sites. The most important all-ins just goes 2/3 to the villain. Am I missing something?
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Here's the whole picture in chip ev. In bb wise things are normalish, 9.1bb/100 ev and 7.7 realized.
The big pots just don't swing the right way.
Man, this can't be easier than this -
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
I played on Pokerstars, but it was closed for players from Russia, and I moved to Ipoker. In a month of playing there, I decided to test the software (of iPoker), spent 1 year to find out what is going on there. At the end I managed to open opponents hands. And simply proved the game is not random.
More than that. I have sent my research to the Gambling Supervision Authorities of 10 countries.
Guess what - almost everyone answered except CURACAO, the one where Red Star Poker (I tested the game on micros in this skin) is registered.
I'm surprised that you go under EV so much, because they just rig the game to the favor of weaker players, according to their EV (you know, while all the players are almost equal they maximize their income). Though, if I got you right, you lose key allins on MTTs...
Man, this can't be easier than this -
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showp...
I played on Pokerstars, but it was closed for players from Russia, and I moved to Ipoker. In a month of playing.......
....... Though, if I got you right, you lose key allins on MTTs...
Exactly!
The fact that the most losses are piled up so heavily towards the endgame and the most meaningful all-ins is incomprehensible to me.
(I mean the lose to win ratio, not the chips lost which is obvious and always happens to even quite big degree)
This piling up has around 1/10000 odds to happen according to AIs. And this has happened twice with different users. Both 50k+ hand samples.
There has been datamines that have shown chips being under realized for high quality players. And it's hard to find a good winning graphs, for even superb players, from sharkscope.
Some players manage to earn something there. On MTT's also. I spoke on the biggest Russian poker forum (240 pages of discussions, lol!) with one online-pro. But he played several tables. I only play 1 table, so, hard to say how we could compare this to your situation.
But I haven't ever played anything expensive there on iPoker.
Anyway, they manage their clients accounts somehow. Some - win, some - lose. But it doesn't look to be connected with a gaming level of the player.
Regarding your all-ins, yes, it should be viewed attentively. I mean, the game on iPoker is rigged, it's proved. It's a fresh topic ))
But to check your data, you need to gather all your all-ins together. And check "what are the chances to deviate from expected number of all-ins won to the border you FACT won". For example, you played 200 "key" all-ins with 300 000+ chips involved (or some other criterion). Average allin = 55% (just an example), but you won only 40%.
Deviation chances are -
0,0014% (or once in 70 000 tests/cases). It happens once in 7 000 000 allins played in average approximately.
