Calling range, SB vs BB

Assuming SB shoved?

GTOW has us calling about 43%
- all pairs, Ax
- K3+, K2s+
- Q8+, Q5s+
- J9+, T9
- J8s+/T8s+ (technically J7s is a call but borderline)

Thanks, but that looks more like a shoving range to me, and from mid/late positions too, not even from UTG unless we’re like 8bb and about to loose folding equity if the blinds pass us. What about the real, practical calling range from BB to an SB shove?

It's literally the calling range for BB facing an SB shove 10bb effective.

It is of course based on SB shoving appropriately, so you need some kind of read that he's deviating from equilibrium to adjust.

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Yes I know it’s a literal +EV calling range from a calculator but.. does anybody call that wide? I think some margin should be set here, what’s the point in calling 0.001 +EV here

That's why I identified J7s as borderline, because it's only .03 EV. The other borderline hand I didn't notice earlier is 98s, which is .02. All the others are clear calls. The next closest is K3o at .13 EV.

The point is, this is the equilibrium calling range. By definition, you can't lose money calling with this range...assuming SB is shoving an equilibrium range. But if you don't have some reason to assume he isn't (like a specific read or population tendences), equilibrium is what you fall back on.

May be worth noting that ranges adjust with ICM, and I don't just mean on the bubble or near/at the final table-- there will be slight differences even when you get to the point of half the field left.

(Also, a 12BB stack is 50% larger than an 8BB stack. The 12BB range will be tighter and the calling range should be appropriately tighter, both to adjust for the range and for the worse pot odds.)