SRP 6 max AQ94
Hero holds AcQs9c4s 100 bb deep (Button)
The Villain is unknown player 100 bb deep (UTG)
The Villain opens UTG, Hero calls and BB calls.
Flop 3-way (11 BB) : AsKs4x
UTG bets 50%, Hero calls and BB folds
Turn Heads-up (22 BB) : Js
UTG bets 50%, Hero raises 30 BB x, UTG calls
River (82BB) : Ad
UTG goes all in. Just want to check whether we could ever fold this hand? It is an automatic call, isn´t it?
13 Replies
Yea we call, he should have KK more than he has AK/AJ and rarely might see some lower flushes turn to a bluff
I would call, we beat some lower boats that might jam.
You should be raising the flop
Thank you guys! Just wanted to validate the river call.
"You should be raising the flop"
Hmm at micro stakes people tend to limp and there is not so much raising preflop, so if somebody raises UTG, he /she most likely has AAxx/ KKxx. Against KKxx, we have 9 FD outs and 2 x A = 11 x 4 = 44% ... against AAxx we just have a FD = 9 x 4 = 36%
You don’t care if he has AA or KK. You block AA, have 2 pair, and have the NFD with a BDSD. You have to have some raises here and having 2p with a NFD is way too strong to just call and you have some fold equity as well.
You can and should be raising here.
Naked AK will be put in a blender as well.
Thank you guys! Just wanted to validate the river call.
"You should be raising the flop"
Hmm at micro stakes people tend to limp and there is not so much raising preflop, so if somebody raises UTG, he /she most likely has AAxx/ KKxx. Against KKxx, we have 9 FD outs and 2 x A = 11 x 4 = 44% ... against AAxx we just have a FD = 9 x 4 = 36%
You are overestimating your equity, I came up with around 35-38 and 26-29.
"You are overestimating your equity, I came up with around 35-38 and 26-29."
That is surprising ... Which formula do you use?
Is it not roughly 4 x outs on flop / 2 x outs on turn?
"You are overestimating your equity, I came up with around 35-38 and 26-29."
That is surprising ... Which formula do you use?
Is it not roughly 4 x outs on flop / 2 x outs on turn?
On the flop both AA and KK have kill outs / redraw if you hit. On the turn each out is worth 2.5% assuming we know both hands fully.
You don't care if he has AA or KK. You block AA, have 2 pair, and have the NFD with a BDSD. You have to have some raises here and having 2p with a NFD is way too strong to just call and you have some fold equity as well.
You can and should be raising here.
Naked AK will be put in a blender as well.
But we do have raises here too. Hands like QJT9 and similar rundowns with a nut flush draw.
3! is preferred preflop. Turn range is mergey and could easily be a mistake. Are we trying to fold better or protect equity when ahead? By calling we give villain a chance to bluff rivers, when our hand is often strong enough to call down.
As played, yes calling river, villain should not expect Hero to have many boats on this line.
This hand is way too disconnected to 3b. In some configs it’s actually a fold to a single raise and this might be one of them facing an UTG raise.
That said, we have a strong hand on this flop and with the NFD it’s definitely strong enough to raise for value. We have a lot of hands to get value from and block the strongest of the hands that beat us.
I misread this hand, so my advice is scuffed.
I still prefer to err on the side of more aggressive 3! as heuristic pre, especially while learning. Player pool / stakes dependent I guess. Post-flop lines are easier in 3!.
